On March 11 2012 02:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think the skillcap in sc2 has to be raised slightly. Elfi taking games off MC, and I don't really think the difference between code S and code B quality is as disparate as it should be. Stability needs to be added, and to be honest i think 90% of all units covering all races need to have their damage decreased. Some by a margin of 50%
This is sc2 not BW it will allways be like this and personaly I like it this way more exiciting. I compare sc2 to football. You cant win them all and sometimes you can even lose to lesser teams if you not on you game..
Its more dynamic this way and it gives a feeling to the viewers that nothing is surden.
There is a saying in football, "Everything can happend in football" and the same aplies to sc2
No one with less than 100 apm should be winning series off MC. Seriously they shouldn't
On March 11 2012 02:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think the skillcap in sc2 has to be raised slightly. Elfi taking games off MC, and I don't really think the difference between code S and code B quality is as disparate as it should be. Stability needs to be added, and to be honest i think 90% of all units covering all races need to have their damage decreased. Some by a margin of 50%
This is sc2 not BW it will allways be like this and personaly I like it this way more exiciting. I compare sc2 to football. You cant win them all and sometimes you can even lose to lesser teams if you not on you game..
Its more dynamic this way and it gives a feeling to the viewers that nothing is surden.
There is a saying in football, "Everything can happend in football" and the same aplies to sc2
No one with less than 100 apm should be winning series off MC. Seriously they shouldn't
If they can use those 100 actions per minute to out maneuver MC, why on earth should they NOT win?
TBH, i think beating MC with less 100 APM is more impressive than beating him with the same APM as MC. It means that whoever beat him has some incredibly good decision making or is incredibly efficient with their actions.
On March 11 2012 02:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think the skillcap in sc2 has to be raised slightly. Elfi taking games off MC, and I don't really think the difference between code S and code B quality is as disparate as it should be. Stability needs to be added, and to be honest i think 90% of all units covering all races need to have their damage decreased. Some by a margin of 50%
This is sc2 not BW it will allways be like this and personaly I like it this way more exiciting. I compare sc2 to football. You cant win them all and sometimes you can even lose to lesser teams if you not on you game..
Its more dynamic this way and it gives a feeling to the viewers that nothing is surden.
There is a saying in football, "Everything can happend in football" and the same aplies to sc2
No one with less than 100 apm should be winning series off MC. Seriously they shouldn't
If they can use those 100 actions per minute to out maneuver MC, why on earth should they NOT win?
Yeah, it's ridiculous with all this apm worshipping, making correct decisions should be more important than just clicking really fast and spamming a lot. If you can make do with less apm you're probably playing smarter.
On March 11 2012 02:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think the skillcap in sc2 has to be raised slightly. Elfi taking games off MC, and I don't really think the difference between code S and code B quality is as disparate as it should be. Stability needs to be added, and to be honest i think 90% of all units covering all races need to have their damage decreased. Some by a margin of 50%
This is sc2 not BW it will allways be like this and personaly I like it this way more exiciting. I compare sc2 to football. You cant win them all and sometimes you can even lose to lesser teams if you not on you game..
Its more dynamic this way and it gives a feeling to the viewers that nothing is surden.
There is a saying in football, "Everything can happend in football" and the same aplies to sc2
No one with less than 100 apm should be winning series off MC. Seriously they shouldn't
No reason why they shouldn't. That would just mean that their actions were much more efficient. One of the most inspiring things in sports is to see a team that plays better beat a team that is more athletic. Likewise for SC2. The game isn't just about spamming actions, otherwise guys like Puzzle would be the best player. It's about decision-making, gamesense, and smart play as much as having good mechanics, timing and multitasking.
On March 11 2012 02:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think the skillcap in sc2 has to be raised slightly. Elfi taking games off MC, and I don't really think the difference between code S and code B quality is as disparate as it should be. Stability needs to be added, and to be honest i think 90% of all units covering all races need to have their damage decreased. Some by a margin of 50%
This is sc2 not BW it will allways be like this and personaly I like it this way more exiciting. I compare sc2 to football. You cant win them all and sometimes you can even lose to lesser teams if you not on you game..
Its more dynamic this way and it gives a feeling to the viewers that nothing is surden.
There is a saying in football, "Everything can happend in football" and the same aplies to sc2
No one with less than 100 apm should be winning series off MC. Seriously they shouldn't
If you watch the replays of Elfi x MC, you can see that Elfi's APM would range from 150-250 during big battles or multitask intensive times. Elfi just doesn't spam needlessly.
MC's control and APM in stress situations were still higher, no doubt, but Elfi isn't the slow player people keep repeating he is. MC made some big mistakes in the games he lost (g1 - didn't focus fire with his 4 immortals; g3- miscontroled and lost all his stalkers when he needed them to harass and delay Elfi's timing push). That series has nothing to do with a skill ceiling discussion IMO.
On March 11 2012 02:12 OPL3SA2 wrote: I think the skillcap in sc2 has to be raised slightly. Elfi taking games off MC, and I don't really think the difference between code S and code B quality is as disparate as it should be. Stability needs to be added, and to be honest i think 90% of all units covering all races need to have their damage decreased. Some by a margin of 50%
This is sc2 not BW it will allways be like this and personaly I like it this way more exiciting. I compare sc2 to football. You cant win them all and sometimes you can even lose to lesser teams if you not on you game..
Its more dynamic this way and it gives a feeling to the viewers that nothing is surden.
There is a saying in football, "Everything can happend in football" and the same aplies to sc2
No one with less than 100 apm should be winning series off MC. Seriously they shouldn't
No reason why they shouldn't. That would just mean that their actions were much more efficient. One of the most inspiring things in sports is to see a team that plays better beat a team that is more athletic. Likewise for SC2. The game isn't just about spamming actions, otherwise guys like Puzzle would be the best player. It's about decision-making, gamesense, and smart play as much as having good mechanics, timing and multitasking.
The thing is you're viewing it from the wrong standpoint. The game isn't there yet, but in the future when strategies and micro requirements are way more complex, APM will be crucial. 300 APM isn't important because of how many times you can spam hotkeys and move your screen, it's important because high APM will allow you to execute all those strategies and decisions your mind can come up with in the most efficient way possible.
As the game evolves APM will become more and more important, people with high APM will be able to execute crazy multipronged attacks and micro them effectively.
You can see this by watching DRG/MMA vs Elfi. From an execution standpoint, if Elfi played terran with that APM there's no way in hell he could play like them, using their strategies at all. Doesn't mean he couldn't win games, but superior strategies will eventually require higher effective APM.
On March 11 2012 04:45 IMoperator wrote: STILL no foreigners qualified for code A. Do you guys think someone will ever make it? At least there's a few playing today too, hope naama makes it.
On March 11 2012 04:45 IMoperator wrote: STILL no foreigners qualified for code A. Do you guys think someone will ever make it? At least there's a few playing today too, hope naama makes it.
Someone is bound to do it sometime if they keep trying; whilst each qualifier is full of exceptionally good players you do usually get a couple of brackets that are pretty weak so there's always the chance a foreigner gets a nice favourable draw. Eventually you'd presume a foreigner will get there, either by skill or luck or a combination of the two.
On March 11 2012 04:45 IMoperator wrote: STILL no foreigners qualified for code A. Do you guys think someone will ever make it? At least there's a few playing today too, hope naama makes it.
On March 11 2012 04:45 IMoperator wrote: STILL no foreigners qualified for code A. Do you guys think someone will ever make it? At least there's a few playing today too, hope naama makes it.
Jinro has gotten close twice. It's possible
Which foreigners play today?
Naama, DeathAngel and SaSe confirmed. I would be surprised if Haypro and Jinro would not chose to play. I don't know about Morrow, weither he plans to stay in korea longer or not
Edit: Few months ago Demuslim was confirmed as an Up&Down Seed and to return to korea. Is he the injured seed? What has he done?
EPT
