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TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
March 07 2012 11:53 GMT
#1661
On March 07 2012 20:51 Jaegeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 20:48 W2 wrote:
0-2 ReaL

jetlagged and first game is vs a Korean protoss. Zerg isn't supposed to win, let alone with jetlag.

1-2 Feast

First game was the only proper game, foreigner scrubs can't beat idra in a proper game. Games 2&3 protoss choses to take the free win by building immortals. The most key decision of the game was him putting down that robotics. Smart play, very well done by him.

0-2 Kas

Terran.


Wat.

I don't even......


Have you ever heard of sarcasm ?
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
March 07 2012 11:53 GMT
#1662
I'm really impressed with Darkforce this tournament, playing absolutely beautiful ZvP.
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
March 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#1663
On March 07 2012 20:49 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 20:46 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:45 Cereb wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:43 Joedaddy wrote:
I think its time for Idra to get back to his Terran roots. He just doesn't seem like he's adapting to the newer and more successful styles of zerg play.



That'd be so interesting


I actually think that the only way for him to be good again is if he
changed races.


Idra now 4-22 in 2012. 15% win rate.


OMG


Well he certainly needs to make some sort of change. Zerg is the most erratic race to play and clearly he hates the early game pressure that's used against Zerg. He should switch to Terran which has the strongest early game. Just like Kas his strength is Macro games so at least he wouldnt GG 10 mins into the game


Not only is his macro top notch, his multi task and mechanics are incredibly good too (obviously). But, Idra said recently that Terran benefits the most from multi tasking, and multi tasking benefits mostly from practice. He's also said that he is a big fan of pushing opponents multi task.

Consider all of that in addition to his fragile (?) mindset, and Terran seems like a better fit for him.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 11:55:33
March 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#1664
If accommodations were allocated by performance IEM would let Idra sleep under a bridge. Without a blanket.
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
sonkaliniz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States178 Posts
March 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#1665
On March 07 2012 20:52 ilikeredheads wrote:
where are all his fanboys defending his play?


Probably asleep. All his fanboys are mostly american
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#1666
On March 07 2012 20:53 Drmooose wrote:
As an idra fan (not fanboy) its getting really hard to stay positive. Sure he was behind but his early ggs are getting worse and worse. I'd really like to see him playing better again.

I'm not going to lie, Idra hasn't early gg'd this whole tournament yet. Every gg he was dead. He used to be terrible, but he's legitimately improved about that gg timing. A lot of people just have it in their head that he's going to early gg so every gg is an early gg.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#1667
On March 07 2012 20:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 20:41 Doublemint wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:39 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:36 Bocian wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:32 MandoRelease wrote:
Everytime Idra plays, LR threads become the worst place on TL, regardless of what you think of Idra. Some people just need to express a shit ton of repressed anger. Incredible.

Because he is soo overrated. He WAS really good but now he is just AVERAGE player and there are many MUCH better foreigners. It's just stupid how everyone thinks idra is the best out of korea. He is just average and he is stubborn - he has hardly changed his ZvT and ZvP style since last year. He is predictable and his allins NEVER work.


Is he actually overrated anymore? He still has fans sure due to his past successes (much like Jinro), but I don't think anyone on TL actually rates him now.


To be fair, Jinro does not have this bullshit attitude - which makes him sooo much more likeable.

You obviously don't know Jinro at all. Jinro is basically the terran version of Idra in terms of balance whine. Great guy, but he complains about balance all the time.


You can whine about balance and still have a good attitude. In all his interviews, Jinro definitely seems like a very nice, very sociable guy, and his in-game attitude isn't terrible like Idra's is.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 11:54:55
March 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#1668


Not a hope Chae, not a hope
@followMVT
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#1669
Im very happy for Feast he has practised hard in the millinium team house and he is slowly starting to be a top foreign player.

[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
March 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#1670
Wait a minute, did not Idra win the first game against KAS? He did really good in the beginning of the game and then I didn't watch for a few minutes, for sure I thought Idra won.

What happened?
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#1671
On March 07 2012 20:54 MVTaylor wrote:
https://twitter.com/#!/WoWnStarcraft/status/172141063253917696

Not a hope Chae, not a hope


Haha, that's pretty funny.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
March 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#1672
On March 07 2012 20:52 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 20:51 Jaegeru wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:48 W2 wrote:
0-2 ReaL

jetlagged and first game is vs a Korean protoss. Zerg isn't supposed to win, let alone with jetlag.

1-2 Feast

First game was the only proper game, foreigner scrubs can't beat idra in a proper game. Games 2&3 protoss choses to take the free win by building immortals. The most key decision of the game was him putting down that robotics. Smart play, very well done by him.

0-2 Kas

Terran.



Wat.

I don't even......


I think this guy is trying to be funny like this guy actually was:

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 20:40 skeldark wrote:
I think this was a great success for idra.
---
Set 1: i did not see the games but:
In first game he lost only because of imbalance and outclassed his enemy clearly.
In game nr.2 was a 100% build-order-loose.
----
Set 2: i only saw last game but:
He won first game against the best p on the world (fiest) with an awesome macro and mirco.
in Game nr. 2 fiest abuse the imbalance of pvz so it was unwinable.
In the last game the protoss eco cheated idras 2 base roach push and won only because of gamble.
---
Set 3:
1 game he outplayed the best t in the world (kas) with an powerfull allin ahhm pressur build!
After winning the game he only lost the game because of imbalance of marines and map.
2. game: He lost his scouting overlord because of map imbalance. So he could not win anyways.
But because of his endless skill, he was able to do fine until kas atacked first time.
---
All maps are imbalanced against zerg and protoss is unbeatable.
The other zergs only win on them because they dont know yet.

Also Idra had jetlack and had no bathroom in his hotelroom!
The other players who fly in with the same plain and life in the room next door,
have no idea how hard that is.
---

So even if he did not win a single bo3:
idra proofed again that he is the best sc2 player in the world!

Unpossible he isn't incontrol he can't know sarcasm.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
March 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#1673
On March 07 2012 20:54 MVTaylor wrote:
https://twitter.com/#!/WoWnStarcraft/status/172141063253917696

This actually makes me really sad.
Falan
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany91 Posts
March 07 2012 11:56 GMT
#1674

On March 07 2012 20:40 skeldark wrote:
I think this was a great success for idra.
---
Set 1: i did not see the games but:
In first game he lost only because of imbalance and outclassed his enemy clearly.
In game nr.2 was a 100% build-order-loose.
----
Set 2: i only saw last game but:
He won first game against the best p on the world (fiest) with an awesome macro and mirco.
in Game nr. 2 fiest abuse the imbalance of pvz so it was unwinable.
In the last game the protoss eco cheated idras 2 base roach push and won only because of gamble.
---
Set 3:
1 game he outplayed the best t in the world (kas) with an powerfull allin ahhm pressur build!
After winning the game he only lost the game because of imbalance of marines and map.
2. game: He lost his scouting overlord because of map imbalance. So he could not win anyways.
But because of his endless skill, he was able to do fine until kas atacked first time.
---
All maps are imbalanced against zerg and protoss is unbeatable.
The other zergs only win on them because they dont know yet.

Also Idra had jetlack and had no bathroom in his hotelroom!
The other players who fly in with the same plain and life in the room next door,
have no idea how hard that is.
---

So even if he did not win a single bo3:
idra proofed again that he is the best sc2 player in the world!


Epic. :D
Btw this isn't hating on Idra, but rather making fun of his fanboys. If you look into his fanclub you can actually find many posts like this one...
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
March 07 2012 11:56 GMT
#1675
On March 07 2012 20:40 skeldark wrote:
I think this was a great success for idra.
---
Set 1: i did not see the games but:
In first game he lost only because of imbalance and outclassed his enemy clearly.
In game nr.2 was a 100% build-order-loose.
----
Set 2: i only saw last game but:
He won first game against the best p on the world (fiest) with an awesome macro and mirco.
in Game nr. 2 fiest abuse the imbalance of pvz so it was unwinable.
In the last game the protoss eco cheated idras 2 base roach push and won only because of gamble.
---
Set 3:
1 game he outplayed the best t in the world (kas) with an powerfull allin ahhm pressur build!
After winning the game he only lost the game because of imbalance of marines and map.
2. game: He lost his scouting overlord because of map imbalance. So he could not win anyways.
But because of his endless skill, he was able to do fine until kas atacked first time.
---
All maps are imbalanced against zerg and protoss is unbeatable.
The other zergs only win on them because they dont know yet.

Also Idra had jetlack and had no bathroom in his hotelroom!
The other players who fly in with the same plain and life in the room next door,
have no idea how hard that is.
---

So even if he did not win a single bo3:
idra proofed again that he is the best sc2 player in the world!

Hahahaha, win :D
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
March 07 2012 11:56 GMT
#1676
On March 07 2012 20:54 MVTaylor wrote:
https://twitter.com/#!/WoWnStarcraft/status/172141063253917696

Not a hope Chae, not a hope


ROFL, love it.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 07 2012 11:56 GMT
#1677
Yeaaaahhh! Darkforce takes down Feast 2-1.

Decent spot now having beaten both Protoss and only lost vs SuperNova. Great chance of advancing if he can get a win over Idra or Kas.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 07 2012 11:57 GMT
#1678
On March 07 2012 20:54 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 20:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:41 Doublemint wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:39 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:36 Bocian wrote:
On March 07 2012 20:32 MandoRelease wrote:
Everytime Idra plays, LR threads become the worst place on TL, regardless of what you think of Idra. Some people just need to express a shit ton of repressed anger. Incredible.

Because he is soo overrated. He WAS really good but now he is just AVERAGE player and there are many MUCH better foreigners. It's just stupid how everyone thinks idra is the best out of korea. He is just average and he is stubborn - he has hardly changed his ZvT and ZvP style since last year. He is predictable and his allins NEVER work.


Is he actually overrated anymore? He still has fans sure due to his past successes (much like Jinro), but I don't think anyone on TL actually rates him now.


To be fair, Jinro does not have this bullshit attitude - which makes him sooo much more likeable.

You obviously don't know Jinro at all. Jinro is basically the terran version of Idra in terms of balance whine. Great guy, but he complains about balance all the time.


You can whine about balance and still have a good attitude. In all his interviews, Jinro definitely seems like a very nice, very sociable guy, and his in-game attitude isn't terrible like Idra's is.

Have you watched Jinro's stream? He's basically Idra without the Ad Hominem attacks, and even then he'll chirp the odd protoss player directly if he's on a losing streak.

Jinro does seem like really nice guy, and he arguably has the best music on his stream other than stephano, but he's the exact same as idra.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
March 07 2012 11:57 GMT
#1679
Wtf are we hearing in the background?
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
March 07 2012 11:57 GMT
#1680
gg, darkforce on fire
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