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On February 24 2012 23:11 chestnutcc wrote:
Stephano only seems to be vulnerable to strong 2 base pressure, either stargate backed or blink stalker timings. In many of his korean ladder replays, he steamrolls many tosses with roaches if their pressure doesn't do enough. His achilles heel seems to be ST_Squirtle though.
Its cause he build so many drones. Korean protosses know how to be aggressive and force units early unlike foreign protosses. I believe many of them will just execute 2 base timings against stephanos greedy play and have a pretty decent win rate.
Stephano is still a sick sick player, he probably could make some good runs in code A.
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On February 24 2012 23:11 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:10 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Doublemint wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 HowardRoark wrote:
Please correct me if I am ignorant, but there are no _top_ Korean at all in this ASUS ROG tournament? Not a single one play in Code S, and many even failed Code A?
Sure, they still roflstomp any foreigner except Stephano, but I still wanted some top players. JYP,Puma,Taeja,Polt,Lucky,Hero? I guess if that´s too bad for you you rather go watch MLG. Neither of them are top koreans, they hang around in high code a or very low code s  CodeS is not the definite, unquestionable, supreme classification of the skill of a player. No? What else is, then?
In SC2 there isn't one.
The game is so volatile and Code S players come and go each and every season.
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defends 4 gate with 3 hatch, just insane
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trying to brain stephano, silly mana :D
stephano now with more drones than mana's supply
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guys i joined a dozen of minute ago, missed some interesting games (stephano happy?), will there be VODs?
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On February 24 2012 23:11 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:10 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Doublemint wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 HowardRoark wrote:
Please correct me if I am ignorant, but there are no _top_ Korean at all in this ASUS ROG tournament? Not a single one play in Code S, and many even failed Code A?
Sure, they still roflstomp any foreigner except Stephano, but I still wanted some top players. JYP,Puma,Taeja,Polt,Lucky,Hero? I guess if that´s too bad for you you rather go watch MLG. Neither of them are top koreans, they hang around in high code a or very low code s CodeS is not the definite, unquestionable, supreme classification of the skill of a player. No? What else is, then?
Why does there have to be one? It doesn't exist.
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.....mana that was terrible
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Russian Federation31 Posts
On February 24 2012 23:11 Jaegeru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:06 emraaa wrote:On February 24 2012 23:05 Wildmoon wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 TheHova wrote:
Mana is playing great but Stephano makes PvZ look ridiculous. I really don't see how Protoss beat him at this match up. Many protosses in Code S can beat him. name 2 Genius, parting and oz.
NICE JOKE
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On February 24 2012 23:11 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:09 dragonborn wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Doublemint wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 HowardRoark wrote:
Please correct me if I am ignorant, but there are no _top_ Korean at all in this ASUS ROG tournament? Not a single one play in Code S, and many even failed Code A?
Sure, they still roflstomp any foreigner except Stephano, but I still wanted some top players. JYP,Puma,Taeja,Polt,Lucky,Hero? I guess if that´s too bad for you you rather go watch MLG. Neither of them are top koreans, they hang around in high code a or very low code s Yeah GSL super tournament champion is low skilled code A/S player. He is not even Code A or Code S at this point. Who cares what he has done a year ago.
He is still beating MMA/NesTee,Leenock&co.
Polt out of code A because he was sick and bad condition because of sickness.
He is still top 5 terran in Korea.
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On February 24 2012 23:12 -shArk- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:07 TheHova wrote:On February 24 2012 23:04 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 TheHova wrote:
Mana is playing great but Stephano makes PvZ look ridiculous. I really don't see how Protoss beat him at this match up. Look at the koreans, they can Name a Korean that isn't MC that beat Stephano. Did Stephano ever played Oz, Puzzle, Genius or Paring? Dont think so, they all can beat him in my opinion.
Yeah i think you pointed the real fact, he didnt play against that many Koreans so for the mmt we cant say that Stephano > them neither them > stephano. Speculating about games is pointless just enjoy games that u can see 
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Bratok ReaL will be a regame, bratOK lagged out and was dropped, I believe this is their first game of the match on Antiga
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On February 24 2012 23:13 Tsubbi wrote:
defends 4 gate with 3 hatch, just insane
almost like marineking defends 4gate with 3 cc and without keyboard :D
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On February 24 2012 23:11 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:10 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Doublemint wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 HowardRoark wrote:
Please correct me if I am ignorant, but there are no _top_ Korean at all in this ASUS ROG tournament? Not a single one play in Code S, and many even failed Code A?
Sure, they still roflstomp any foreigner except Stephano, but I still wanted some top players. JYP,Puma,Taeja,Polt,Lucky,Hero? I guess if that´s too bad for you you rather go watch MLG. Neither of them are top koreans, they hang around in high code a or very low code s CodeS is not the definite, unquestionable, supreme classification of the skill of a player. No? What else is, then?
As of the starting players of GSL codeS in GSL 2012 Season1:
Hero is not in codeS, Inca is.
Lucky and Curious are in codeS, Stephano and Violet aren't.
Fin and Boxer are in codeS, Polt and STC aren't.
Now go ahead and explain how is codeS a definiton of being "stronger" given these names.
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On February 24 2012 23:14 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:13 Tsubbi wrote:
defends 4 gate with 3 hatch, just insane almost like marineking defends 4gate with 3 cc and without keyboard :D
Hahahhaa I was telling a friend about this last night and he was like dude you're so full of shit no way that happened
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On February 24 2012 23:14 Sea_aeS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:12 -shArk- wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 TheHova wrote:On February 24 2012 23:04 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 TheHova wrote:
Mana is playing great but Stephano makes PvZ look ridiculous. I really don't see how Protoss beat him at this match up. Look at the koreans, they can Name a Korean that isn't MC that beat Stephano. Did Stephano ever played Oz, Puzzle, Genius or Paring? Dont think so, they all can beat him in my opinion. Yeah i think you pointed the real fact, he didnt play against that many Koreans so for the mmt we cant say that Stephano > them neither them > stephano. Speculating about games is pointless just enjoy games that u can see
He already lost to dozens of korean terrans 
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WhiteRa in excellent position vs JYP. His 3rd almost finishing vs 2 base, AND supply / tech / upgrade lead. He is ahead in every way O_O
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WhiteRa vs JYP, woohoo come on Ra!
Expanding to 3rd usually means loss in PvP though right?
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On February 24 2012 23:14 opasnoste wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:11 Jaegeru wrote:On February 24 2012 23:06 emraaa wrote:On February 24 2012 23:05 Wildmoon wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 TheHova wrote:
Mana is playing great but Stephano makes PvZ look ridiculous. I really don't see how Protoss beat him at this match up. Many protosses in Code S can beat him. name 2 Genius, parting and oz. NICE JOKE
Genius is a Code S finalist, Oz a Code S semifinalist and Parting has been dominating Zergs in Code A with his style.
All 3 of them would be heavily favored against Stephano if they ever met.
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On February 24 2012 23:12 -shArk- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:07 TheHova wrote:On February 24 2012 23:04 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 TheHova wrote:
Mana is playing great but Stephano makes PvZ look ridiculous. I really don't see how Protoss beat him at this match up. Look at the koreans, they can Name a Korean that isn't MC that beat Stephano. Did Stephano ever played Oz, Puzzle, Genius or Paring? Dont think so, they all can beat him in my opinion.
Did Oz, Puzzle, Genius or Paring ever played stephano, i believe he can beat them...
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On February 24 2012 23:12 -shArk- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:07 TheHova wrote:On February 24 2012 23:04 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 TheHova wrote:
Mana is playing great but Stephano makes PvZ look ridiculous. I really don't see how Protoss beat him at this match up. Look at the koreans, they can Name a Korean that isn't MC that beat Stephano. Did Stephano ever played Oz, Puzzle, Genius or Paring? Dont think so, they all can beat him in my opinion.
Of course they can, they are great protoss players. But he had like 75% winrate on KR server and he most definitely already played them. Not in an official game, but that´s mainly due to Stephano not playing GSL and named players not coming to foreign events.
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On February 24 2012 23:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 23:11 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:10 Zealot Orgy wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Tarotis wrote:On February 24 2012 23:07 Doublemint wrote:On February 24 2012 23:03 HowardRoark wrote:
Please correct me if I am ignorant, but there are no _top_ Korean at all in this ASUS ROG tournament? Not a single one play in Code S, and many even failed Code A?
Sure, they still roflstomp any foreigner except Stephano, but I still wanted some top players. JYP,Puma,Taeja,Polt,Lucky,Hero? I guess if that´s too bad for you you rather go watch MLG. Neither of them are top koreans, they hang around in high code a or very low code s CodeS is not the definite, unquestionable, supreme classification of the skill of a player. No? What else is, then? In SC2 there isn't one. The game is so volatile and Code S players come and go each and every season.
true, its also a bit strange to say "there are no Code S players here"
when they are only 8 actual Code S players because the rest has to requalify
you could count JYP and Lucky as Code S because they were there this season
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EPT
