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TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
February 24 2012 15:47 GMT
#2121
On February 25 2012 00:46 HaXXspetten wrote:
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On February 25 2012 00:44 mobbeh wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:41 TheRidd wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:40 Badfatpanda wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 poorcloud wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:37 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Please just leave, your trolling/ignorance is not appreciated.


Um hero is really not? Unless by top, you mean top 15...


Top 15? Are you kidding? He's easily right behind Genius/MC/Creator/Parting

I think you are forgetting puzzle and maybe sage :p

Sage is so over-hyped. He's good, but he's barely good enough to clean HerO's shoes.

Oz, Squirtle, Creator, JYP etc, there are a lot of good Korean Tosses yo

And according to Artosis even San is playing well atm
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 24 2012 15:47 GMT
#2122
On February 25 2012 00:45 SCST wrote:
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On February 25 2012 00:42 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 SCST wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Yes, he is ?

You obviously haven't been following the GSL. You are forgiven.

He isn't even in Code S, nor was he any season before


He's very close to Code S at this point, and has been known to have nerve issues in the past (if you follow him). No one said Hero was the best protoss in the world at the moment, but it's quite ridiculous to say that he's not in the top 8 in the world. Only a biased person would say something like Top 15 or Top 20.

And yes, being top 8 means "one of the top protoss".


It bothers me this double standard for koreans. If they are not in the top 4 of their respective race they suck.

But foreginers being no 1 on their ladder or beating one korean gives them so much credit, even though there must be literally 100 other players above them from that point (except no1 on Kr ladder.)

Hero is a top player no matter what people say. And because of the lack of successful protoss players He is top 10 easy.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#2123
On February 25 2012 00:46 openbox1 wrote:
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On February 25 2012 00:41 TheRidd wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:40 Badfatpanda wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 poorcloud wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:37 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Please just leave, your trolling/ignorance is not appreciated.


Um hero is really not? Unless by top, you mean top 15...


Top 15? Are you kidding? He's easily right behind Genius/MC/Creator/Parting

I think you are forgetting puzzle and maybe sage :p


don't forget Alicia (been in a slump recently) and Inca (love that man's DTs).
Hero just hasn't really proven himself against the best that the GSL has to offer so far other than a win against Jakjti when he played some really odd games in IPL Fight club I think.

Btw, who's been performing better? JYP or Hero?


GSL spoilers + Show Spoiler +
Hero just beat JYP in code A to make it to ro24
, and he is also doing better in clan leagues.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 15:49:30
February 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#2124
On February 25 2012 00:44 Asha` wrote:
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On February 25 2012 00:42 pripple wrote:
kinda feeling TaeJa destroying this group..


Would be a pretty big upset if he doesn't. I know he hates TvP though, to the extent that occasionally he swaps sides and streams as Toss heh (he's not bad at all, beats KR GM players with it sometimes)

ye, which terran doesn't hate TvP atm though? well to that extent maybe not many ;p
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#2125
On February 25 2012 00:44 Tarotis wrote:
Ladder means nothing and "top protoss" starts for me with Code S. if you call people "top" in ok so its right I guess, but wrong in the definition of me (:


Open your mind. Code S is just a title. There are alot of players that were once in Code S but are not as good as HerO is right now. Do you count those? Or do you count only the ones that are currently in Code S? So if HerO gets to Code S this season, he magically becomes superior? Does getting into Code S grant you experience points or something that you can use to upgrade your skills? Code S is a good indictation of a player's skills but it's not the determining factor.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#2126
On February 25 2012 00:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:
when HerO is on, he is one of the best players in the world, period. overall though, I would say he is Top 5-7 Protoss. seriously though, sometimes he shows flashes of straight up genius and i think he has potential to be a top 3.


That's what they said about Puma, Huk, Jinro, Idra and et all.
Who's on top is cyclical. Hope to see the names above shine once again, but they're all definitely not top-class currently.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#2127
On February 25 2012 00:41 TheRidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 00:40 Badfatpanda wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 poorcloud wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:37 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Please just leave, your trolling/ignorance is not appreciated.


Um hero is really not? Unless by top, you mean top 15...


Top 15? Are you kidding? He's easily right behind Genius/MC/Creator/Parting

I think you are forgetting puzzle and maybe sage :p


Puzzle definitely, idk how I forgot lol, but idk bout Sage, tbh I feel like he was overhyped and suffered from it recently.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#2128
On February 25 2012 00:47 TheRidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 00:46 HaXXspetten wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:44 mobbeh wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:41 TheRidd wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:40 Badfatpanda wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 poorcloud wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:37 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Please just leave, your trolling/ignorance is not appreciated.


Um hero is really not? Unless by top, you mean top 15...


Top 15? Are you kidding? He's easily right behind Genius/MC/Creator/Parting

I think you are forgetting puzzle and maybe sage :p

Sage is so over-hyped. He's good, but he's barely good enough to clean HerO's shoes.

Oz, Squirtle, Creator, JYP etc, there are a lot of good Korean Tosses yo

And according to Artosis even San is playing well atm

San is in the MLG Winter Arena and got the only 2 kills for Hoseo vs prime
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Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 15:51:25
February 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#2129
On February 25 2012 00:46 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 00:44 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:42 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 poorcloud wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:37 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Please just leave, your trolling/ignorance is not appreciated.


Um hero is really not? Unless by top, you mean top 15...


Korea has got so many great players, even to this point unknown ones, and yes HerO is up there.
qualifiying for CodeA and staying there, having an insane winrate on KR Ladder etc. Who is above him apart from
(let´s assume they are sooo much superior) CodeS players? That´s right, no one.

Ladder means nothing and "top protoss" starts for me with Code S. if you call people "top" in ok so its right I guess, but wrong in the definition of me (:


Yep, same here.

Code S is the NBA to me, while Code A is college. Foreigners are high school.

If you aren't in Code S you aren't "top"

So MVP isn't top?
right...
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
February 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#2130
On February 25 2012 00:47 softan wrote:
Hero has the most insane mechanics that it wouldn't surprise me if he's soon in code s and above all those protosses you earlier listed as better than him. I'd put him in top5 as it is now but his potential is insane as long as he can manage his nervousness in tournaments.


I guess hero has nervous issues but what makes you think other players dosen't have nerve issues? Heck, even MVP says he gets nervous in matches some times. I really think we should take a step back and stop using nerve issues to find an "excuse" when our favourite players lose.
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
February 24 2012 15:49 GMT
#2131
TaeJa is about to make elfi his bitch.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
February 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#2132
On February 25 2012 00:49 Sareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 00:46 xrapture wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:44 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:42 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:38 poorcloud wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:37 Doublemint wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Tarotis wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:36 Doublemint wrote:
wow nice timing for pressure by hero, there´s a reason he´s a top protoss in Korea.

No, he is not ?


Please just leave, your trolling/ignorance is not appreciated.


Um hero is really not? Unless by top, you mean top 15...


Korea has got so many great players, even to this point unknown ones, and yes HerO is up there.
qualifiying for CodeA and staying there, having an insane winrate on KR Ladder etc. Who is above him apart from
(let´s assume they are sooo much superior) CodeS players? That´s right, no one.

Ladder means nothing and "top protoss" starts for me with Code S. if you call people "top" in ok so its right I guess, but wrong in the definition of me (:


Yep, same here.

Code S is the NBA to me, while Code A is college. Foreigners are high school.

If you aren't in Code S you aren't "top"

So MvP isn't top?
right...


To be fair, MVP hasn't dropped out of code S until the season is over. Yeah, hes playing in code A but thats the format. Only when he starts in code A next season could we say hes a code A player.
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
February 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#2133
1-1 between Ra and Diestar
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 15:51:55
February 24 2012 15:51 GMT
#2134
Tis funny that the casters are praising Elfi so much for holding off the harass, yet Taeja is brute-force outmacroing him. Foreign bias lol.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
joeschmo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States167 Posts
February 24 2012 15:51 GMT
#2135
GSL Code S is all that matters, they're the best players in the world.

& If you don't know, now ya know
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
February 24 2012 15:52 GMT
#2136
This cast seems a bit biased...Elfi is way behind and yet they talk like he is ahead or even >.>
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
February 24 2012 15:52 GMT
#2137
smells like outmacro here 8D
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
February 24 2012 15:52 GMT
#2138
lol a nervous 17 year old.

Yeah but taeja has been stomping so much in so many competitions, if anything, elfi should be the nervous one since hes facing a more "famous" player.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 24 2012 15:52 GMT
#2139
On February 25 2012 00:47 softan wrote:
Hero has the most insane mechanics that it wouldn't surprise me if he's soon in code s and above all those protosses you earlier listed as better than him. I'd put him in top5 as it is now but his potential is insane as long as he can manage his nervousness in tournaments.


reminds me of top 3 control
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 24 2012 15:52 GMT
#2140
On February 25 2012 00:51 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Tis funny that the casters are praising Elfi so much for holding off the harass, yet Taeja is brute-force outmacroing him.


Elfi is teching too hard. Storm, colossi AND double forge on 2 bases make no sense because you just end up with no actual units, and this game is good proof of it.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
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