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On February 24 2012 20:09 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:07 XRaDiiX wrote:
Why is it that a few months ago Terran looked ridiculously impossible to beat as a Protoss.
Now its the exact opposite I can't even remember Terrans ever winning vs Protoss especially in Long Macro games.
Also Zergs are getting smashed pretty hard by Protoss all-ins off 2-bases. Protosses always beat terrans in macro games. Terrans were just winning with 1/1/1, which is slowly losing strength as the maps get bigger and tosses get smarter, so until recently tosses could barely reach the lategame.
The EMP nerf is a pretty big deal as well.
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On February 24 2012 20:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:09 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 24 2012 20:08 Fragile51 wrote:On February 24 2012 20:06 Gexs wrote:
VINES the new MC of oGs? :3 Not untill he starts strutting around and starts bashing on windows he aint :p Were MC's first ceremonies not the finger wag? I thought it was the throat slit in brood war before he went out. Wasn't that why he was "Flounder"
Haha, yeah. Suicide toss was another amusing nickname he got from that.
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On February 24 2012 20:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:09 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 24 2012 20:08 Fragile51 wrote:On February 24 2012 20:06 Gexs wrote:
VINES the new MC of oGs? :3 Not untill he starts strutting around and starts bashing on windows he aint :p Were MC's first ceremonies not the finger wag? I thought it was the throat slit in brood war before he went out. Wasn't that why he was "Flounder"
oGsMC, not IrOn[KaL] 
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United States97274 Posts
On February 24 2012 20:10 elwoodng wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:09 IMPrime wrote:On February 24 2012 20:07 XRaDiiX wrote:
Why is it that a few months ago Terran looked ridiculously impossible to beat as a Protoss.
Now its the exact opposite I can't even remember Terrans ever winning vs Protoss especially in Long Macro games.
Also Zergs are getting smashed pretty hard by Protoss all-ins off 2-bases. Protosses always beat terrans in macro games. Terrans were just winning with 1/1/1, which is slowly losing strength as the maps get bigger and tosses get smarter, so until recently tosses could barely reach the lategame. The EMP nerf is a pretty big deal as well.
and cheaper upgrades. double forge style is so popular
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On February 24 2012 20:09 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:07 Kiyo. wrote:On February 24 2012 20:05 Fionn wrote:
"Hey guys, knowing that we all suck at vP, why didn't we release Coca out of the dungeon before we put in the GSTL rosters? I mean, we let him out a few days later, anyway..."
"But...but we had MMA. Who knew we would need someone else?" Have you seen something recently that we haven't? What makes you think Coca's vP is decent right now? Pretty sure he was atop the Korean ladder a few days ago with a 80% win rate. So he's in good shape.
That makes me even more sad that he had to be secluded from pro play because of childish mistake.
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I love Vines, love Puzzle, but PvP... hell I prefer ZvZ to PvP...
At least it'll be quick on dual-sight.
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On February 24 2012 20:10 Zinthar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:06 Liph wrote:On February 24 2012 20:05 Zinthar wrote:On February 24 2012 20:03 spacer wrote:
Someone tell me how in the hell did VINES go 4-0 against slayers? He plays Protoss. lol. you don't like your posting privileges much. Honestly couldn't care less, and your retort was even less on point. Anyway, I'm trying to think of what MMA could do in that situation after scouting a nexus first. Given the small choke it doesn't really matter how many bunkers he has against that push. He needed more units and simply wasn't going to have them. Maybe a bit-by-bit all-in after scouting nexus first?
Wow, now you decide to use your brain a little and express a well-thought post. That's better.
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On February 24 2012 20:11 openbox1 wrote:
I love Vines, love Puzzle, but PvP... hell I prefer ZvZ to PvP...
The PvP's we've seen in GSL as of late have been really really good if you ask me. It's usually only bad on Bel'shir and Tal'darim.
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United States97274 Posts
I lb Slayers, but I really want to see Vines complete the all kill
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On February 24 2012 20:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:10 elwoodng wrote:On February 24 2012 20:09 IMPrime wrote:On February 24 2012 20:07 XRaDiiX wrote:
Why is it that a few months ago Terran looked ridiculously impossible to beat as a Protoss.
Now its the exact opposite I can't even remember Terrans ever winning vs Protoss especially in Long Macro games.
Also Zergs are getting smashed pretty hard by Protoss all-ins off 2-bases. Protosses always beat terrans in macro games. Terrans were just winning with 1/1/1, which is slowly losing strength as the maps get bigger and tosses get smarter, so until recently tosses could barely reach the lategame. The EMP nerf is a pretty big deal as well. and cheaper upgrades. double forge style is so popular
Come on let's be honest here, the cheaper upgrades mean nothing. Having 2-3 extra units 15 minutes into a game really doesn't change anything.
It did make people do double forge more often, but still it didn't make protoss any stronger.
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On February 24 2012 20:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 20:10 elwoodng wrote:On February 24 2012 20:09 IMPrime wrote:On February 24 2012 20:07 XRaDiiX wrote:
Why is it that a few months ago Terran looked ridiculously impossible to beat as a Protoss.
Now its the exact opposite I can't even remember Terrans ever winning vs Protoss especially in Long Macro games.
Also Zergs are getting smashed pretty hard by Protoss all-ins off 2-bases. Protosses always beat terrans in macro games. Terrans were just winning with 1/1/1, which is slowly losing strength as the maps get bigger and tosses get smarter, so until recently tosses could barely reach the lategame. The EMP nerf is a pretty big deal as well. and cheaper upgrades. double forge style is so popular
Its weird that Toss upgrades are cheaper than Terran upgrades.
Maybe because of Mules or because Toss gateway is weaker than rax units? But the thing is Colossus/Immortals share upgrades... 
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LOL puzzle missed that 4 gate
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On February 24 2012 20:03 human_ko wrote:
this shows how much of a conflip the game is, its ok on the ladder, funny, but when it comes to series matches and you lose coz you just didnt get the better build order....
MMA choosed to go for all in build too. He will hold that if he plays standard.
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United States97274 Posts
Wooo!! go Vines!!! 4 gate gogogogo!! lolol
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Puzzle spawns as P2, VINES spawns as P8.
Identical gate/gas timings.
Puzzle's core is a little late.
Both players take their 2nd gas.
4-gate for Vines. 1-gate Twilight Council for Puzzle.
Puzzle gets a probe in Vines' base but turns around before actually scouting the 4-gate!
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Moletrap calm ur tits bro.
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MOLETRAP, Puzzle just realized what Vines is doing with the minimum info
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United States97274 Posts
aww he made a robo
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EPT
