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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:50 Devolved wrote: Micro as P to win the game. Micro as T to stay alive. (btw, these aren't Terran tears. I'm a Protoss player.) Aren't these the same thing | ||
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6BiT
513 Posts
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BuzZoo
Australia1468 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:51 Porcelina wrote: The thing is, that is true in so many respects for every race. There are still so many unexplored avenues in the late game of most matchups; whoever comes up with something fairly new holds a huge advantage just because reactions have not been defined or even thought out. There is so much gripe about late game balance, but honestly, we are so far away from being able to see the whole picture. We only get to see small glimpses of what will come; just as the way players played out late game in 2010 now seems ridiculous and plain wrong, it is hard to accept that we will not look back at the established truths of early 2012 and laugh in the future. (Of course, HotS might just invalidate this, but oh well). Wise words  | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:51 kurrysauce wrote: iirc , it was "Moo - Fan" or something like that "Mo-Sun" | ||
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:51 Astro-Penguin wrote: Artosis said in one of his dallies that a lot of terrain who thought they were good before the EMP nerf are suddenly getting owned late game now because they weren't every really that good to begin with. It really does baffle me that Terran think they should be able to attack into bad positioning against a well positioned HT Colossi ball and come out ahead, talk about double standards, if a Protoss were to attack into a bunch of EMPS then without a doubt we will lose the battle to, PvT is finally at a point where Terran cant just press T and a move across the map and kill a Protoss. No. Just no. Your post makes no sense at all. You seem to be insinuating terran OP. Terrans cant just press T and a move. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:52 6BiT wrote: that was sick play by genius not sure i agree with the 'best PvT in the world comment, i got more chills from parting's play in the previous rounds but that might just be me! from a selfish point of view hopefully this isnt a 3-0 (want more games!  )Genius' PvT feels like one big death push that wipes the Terran out at max while Parting continues to back up attack after attack, not stopping till the Terran dies from storms. I like Parting's more, but Genius is effective. It would be nice if Alive could make a series of this. It would suck if his newly found confidence got destroyed by another 3-0. | ||
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spacer
Netherlands2786 Posts
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Gumbotwins
Netherlands256 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:48 vthree wrote: So 1-1-1 should not be defendable even when scouted if Terran has perfect micro Uhhhm, that was the case for like half a year or maybe more. Even a patch had to fix it. | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:53 Zealot Lord wrote: Yup - this. People discrediting Genius are just haters who think Toss is EZ mode. To be able to pull that win off after getting scouted is impossible barring perfect micro, and that's what Genius did. Guy is just clutch under pressure, hope he can bring home a loooong overdue Protoss championship. being scouted doesn't matter, all the P allins excluding colo are at the same timing. holding the low ground is not viable, and i'm surprised that this isn't something that top Ts demonstrate | ||
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Notfragile
Greece713 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:47 thunddr wrote: indeed. there's a lot of stereotypical hate on the TL.net threads 1. the BW supremacist who constantly hates on sc2 and its mechanics, gameplay, builds, etc. 2. the person who consistently misuses terms: cheese, bonjwa, all-in, etc. 3. the person who nitpicks every single mistake by players and even casters the list goes on... calm your beards TL. stay classy. I had decided not to post, in order not to be the category 4 type of guy who whines about the whiners. But you delivered a wonderful post that complaines without bitching about it, so +1 from me. In this particular case, we all know that BW is superior and that micro in SC2 is nothing and elephants and flashes and all that stuff. But really how can you whine about it every single time?? I understand the first game 2 battles 2 drops and game over. I really understand that. And I find TvP unacceptably boring. But on the second game, there were 3 charged void rays for the whole duration of the fight, 2 of them <10 hp. While he did that his ground army was not left alone in the front and died to marines. While he did that he showed good decision making as to where to attack every time. He made alive concentrate most of his units on the high ground, showing NO INTENTION at all to go to the nat and then he switched in an instant. It was good micro overall. Go watch a game from Ace yesterday, showing what happens when you don't do it right. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:53 happyness wrote: It wasn't just the micro of the voidrays. It was the fact that genius played a flawless game. Yeah, he forced a win in an almost near-loss situation by just outmicroing his opponent. | ||
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courtpanda
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ThaSlayer
707 Posts
I think he means micro is an essential part of the Terran race. Less so for Protoss | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Hahahahaha. Nice. God I hope they both play in the finals. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:52 secretary bird wrote: No revolutionary things like "Oh this unit is good against x I never knew" . He was talking about using mech or BCs that is basic stuff. i genuinely feel sorry for you if you think that this game is "basically figured out" at this point. | ||
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ETisME
12703 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:50 HolydaKing wrote: i wonder though... was that bunker placement good? what if he would've build it like the VR couldn't have attacked the barracks and supply depot? he definitely didn't have a VR *almost* finished when he scouted it, iirc when he scouted it, it was at like 10-20%. He was able to build a bunker *almost* in time, although it just delayed his death. bunker build time 40 seconds, void ray 60 seconds (Without chrono). His bunker was only about half way done when the void ray arrived. The bunker there is probably to prevent high ground warp in. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 23 2012 18:48 Ruscour wrote: or suffering from some kind of deficiency that requires her tubes be tied Or you're amazing at blocking out most of her ranting | ||
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HyunA
Romania362 Posts
anyone has a restream or any idea how to get it to work? i tried reinstalling, restarting, and proxy and still no hope. also, i have sufficient bandwidth | ||
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