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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
On February 21 2012 19:38 TheRidd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing.
HALLELUJAH!!!
Somone who used you're instead of your. <3
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One BW legend after another keeps falling....
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Anybody know how good Seed's PvZ is? I've only really seen his PVT, which is quite impressive.
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On February 21 2012 19:39 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:38 TheRidd wrote:On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing. HALLELUJAH!!! Somone who used you're instead of your. <3
pet hate of yours?
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On February 21 2012 19:39 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm gonna warn you there, some more messages like this one and you will be temp banned from TL for sure. (I know, I did the same not long ago ;D)
I said what I needed to say, people can deny it all they want but its blatantly obvious pvt is gonna get toned down a little.
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On February 21 2012 19:34 shockaslim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:29 L3g3nd_ wrote:On February 21 2012 19:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... They are ridiculous when you lose 10 ghosts with no emps or snipes going off yeah, if you land all your storms you obv win, but its pretty easy to avoid them cos of EMP/snipe and also cos of how slow HT are. You shuoldnt be getting hit by storms at all in TvP, or youre doing something wrong Huh what? We have been seeing HT much earlier in TvP lately, when you really can't afford ghosts, and this is the time where they are REALLY strong, All you can do as Terran is try to mitigate the damage enough so that you can try to kill the army after all of the storms have been used up after already spreading your army out, and even that is really a pipe dream.
If you can't afford ghosts how can Protoss afford HT?
Anyway, now that HT are so popular can we see more tanks please? Oh wait, people think mech sucks because bio is much easier and generally better. But Protoss struggled so much the moment terran did something not bio for a change (1/1/1) because of how predictable MMM became. Anyway that's just my thoughts, I know people always then counter this with the true tried methods of terran but if the top skill ceiling of terran MMM(VG) has been reached then perhaps a new strategy needs to be explored. Whether players do it on their own or Blizzard buff something it does have to happen.
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On February 21 2012 19:39 DrunkenTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:38 eericson000 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:36 DrunkenTemplar wrote:On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid. Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg. This, missing FFs early game is the bane of my existance Toss can also not play aggressive against terran and can still get ahead unless terran plays aggressively. That's great. I'm not arguing with anyone about balance. I'm saying the idea that protoss can get away with not making any mistakes is complete crap.
Huh? So if you dont make mistakes, you are supposed to get punished?
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On February 21 2012 19:39 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:38 TheRidd wrote:On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing. HALLELUJAH!!! Somone who used you're instead of your. <3
LoL <3 you too Seeker. Your threads are the best haha...
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On February 21 2012 19:37 Severian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:32 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid. I must have missed the part where the Protoss threw away 10 HT then walked his army into his opponent's on move command. Refer to jjakji vs parting where parting on several occasions basically gives away entire maxed armies and goes on to win the games. That was because Parting had way more workers and more bases and Jjakji never killed him or rebuilt his economy.
Jjakji didn't kill him, but it wasn't for lack of trying. Warpgates and chargelots. If it had been the reverse, and Jjakji had more workers and more bases and gave away his army protoss could 1-a to the terran production.
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On February 21 2012 19:39 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:34 shockaslim wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 L3g3nd_ wrote:On February 21 2012 19:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... They are ridiculous when you lose 10 ghosts with no emps or snipes going off yeah, if you land all your storms you obv win, but its pretty easy to avoid them cos of EMP/snipe and also cos of how slow HT are. You shuoldnt be getting hit by storms at all in TvP, or youre doing something wrong Huh what? We have been seeing HT much earlier in TvP lately, when you really can't afford ghosts, and this is the time where they are REALLY strong, All you can do as Terran is try to mitigate the damage enough so that you can try to kill the army after all of the storms have been used up after already spreading your army out, and even that is really a pipe dream. why exactly cant you get ghost out that early? they are cheaper than HT....
it's not about cost, it's about build and transition and scouting
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On February 21 2012 19:38 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:36 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:35 Oboeman wrote:
Can you hallucinate high templar? Yep, you can. Hallucinated templar get 1shotted by snipe though, since hallucinations take twice as much damage. damn. Maybe keep them all in one clump as EMP bait?
When a terran scans to locate the army, he'll just see the fakes and know they wasted a bunch of sentry energy.
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anyone else thinks that this stream switching ruins the broadcast? :/
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On February 21 2012 19:40 VavPK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:39 ZenithM wrote:On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm gonna warn you there, some more messages like this one and you will be temp banned from TL for sure. (I know, I did the same not long ago ;D) I said what I needed to say, people can deny it all they want but its blatantly obvious pvt is gonna get toned down a little.
Yeah, we need to go back to a few months ago when the game was 'balanced' and terran were 65-35% in TvP in Korea.
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On February 21 2012 19:40 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:39 DrunkenTemplar wrote:On February 21 2012 19:38 eericson000 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:36 DrunkenTemplar wrote:On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid. Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg. This, missing FFs early game is the bane of my existance Toss can also not play aggressive against terran and can still get ahead unless terran plays aggressively. That's great. I'm not arguing with anyone about balance. I'm saying the idea that protoss can get away with not making any mistakes is complete crap. Huh? So if you dont make mistakes, you are supposed to get punished?
Oh wait I worded that wrong lol
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Bumblebee going stephano style half way, need moar roaches !
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
On February 21 2012 19:40 DrunkenTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:39 Seeker wrote:On February 21 2012 19:38 TheRidd wrote:On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing. HALLELUJAH!!! Somone who used you're instead of your. <3 pet hate of yours?
good god yes. I am a hidden in the closet grammar nazi. Sometimes l I just want to RIP out tongues and replace them with ones from ENGL course instructors'
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GOM's tournament formats seem to be getting more convoluted each season. -_-
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Boxer doesn't deserve to be in the up/downs imo
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
On February 21 2012 19:41 TheRidd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:39 Seeker wrote:On February 21 2012 19:38 TheRidd wrote:On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?
Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup... Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them? I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup. Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast. Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads. I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed! I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing. HALLELUJAH!!! Somone who used you're instead of your. <3 LoL <3 you too Seeker. Your threads are the best haha...
 Thank you
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On February 21 2012 19:41 DrunkenTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 19:40 Thinasy wrote:On February 21 2012 19:39 DrunkenTemplar wrote:On February 21 2012 19:38 eericson000 wrote:On February 21 2012 19:36 DrunkenTemplar wrote:On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid. Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg. This, missing FFs early game is the bane of my existance Toss can also not play aggressive against terran and can still get ahead unless terran plays aggressively. That's great. I'm not arguing with anyone about balance. I'm saying the idea that protoss can get away with not making any mistakes is complete crap. Huh? So if you dont make mistakes, you are supposed to get punished? Oh wait I worded that wrong lol
Yeah for a second I was really doubting my own reading comprehension lol.
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