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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 21 2012 10:36 GMT
#821
On February 21 2012 19:35 Oboeman wrote:
Can you hallucinate high templar?


Yep, you can. Hallucinated templar get 1shotted by snipe though, since hallucinations take twice as much damage.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#822
I'm as sad as anyone that Boxer lost but it's not because of imbalance.

He chose a bad opening, the push at the start was so easy to defend with forcefields with that tiny choke with the rock and he was so far behind on tech plus he was being pressured by Seed who could do pretty much whatever he wanted with Terran locked in his base behind bunkers.

It snowballed from there and Boxer didn't play godly enough to come back. T_T

Also cute Hallu trick from Seed and nice Storms, but Boxer was really really far behind pretty much the whole time.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 10:37:36
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#823
On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid.


Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg.


Yep. Watch any matches where Bomber (on form) versuses a weaker Protoss and just rolls over him with MMM, because of terrible forcefields.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#824
Come on Avenge bring me to 3/4
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#825
On February 21 2012 19:36 jdynamic wrote:
july and leenock could be brothers! they look so similar haha
Not really, look only at their noses.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#826
I think if Artosis was casting Seed's game today, he would be jumping up and down on that halluc play + nerd chills.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#827
Staying up for july before KOing before classes xD
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#828
On February 21 2012 19:32 Horseballs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:31 Exarl25 wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid.


I must have missed the part where the Protoss threw away 10 HT then walked his army into his opponent's on move command.


Refer to jjakji vs parting where parting on several occasions basically gives away entire maxed armies and goes on to win the games.

That was because Parting had way more workers and more bases and Jjakji never killed him or rebuilt his economy.
VavPK
Profile Joined May 2011
United States196 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#829
On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?

Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup...


Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them?


I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup.


Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast.


Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads.



I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed!
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 10:37:56
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#830
On February 21 2012 19:36 jdynamic wrote:
july and leenock could be brothers! they look so similar haha

this ahhaah) cute and fatty)
also leenock switched back from terran to zerg again. Oh wait, he's playing terran in code s and zerg in code a, i get it
No carpal tunnel no skill
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#831
On February 21 2012 19:36 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:35 Oboeman wrote:
Can you hallucinate high templar?

Yup, expect to see it from seed soon to bait snipes, although I can't think of why any protosses who would want to force ghosts from a terran...

When you go Collosus obviously.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
February 21 2012 10:37 GMT
#832
On February 21 2012 19:36 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid.


Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg.


This, missing FFs early game is the bane of my existance


Even as a Zerg player, if this isn't clear to everyone yet I can't do anything else then sigh, protoss is such a badly done race in this game, either fuck up FF's and lose or do em correctly and you have a 99% chance of winning the engagement.
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eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
February 21 2012 10:38 GMT
#833
On February 21 2012 19:36 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid.


Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg.


This, missing FFs early game is the bane of my existance

Toss can also not play aggressive against terran and can still get ahead unless terran plays aggressively.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 21 2012 10:38 GMT
#834
On February 21 2012 19:37 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:36 jdynamic wrote:
july and leenock could be brothers! they look so similar haha

this ahhaah) cute and fatty)
also leenock switched back from terran to zerg again

Well he plays Terran in Code S right now because he knows it's his only shot at a GSL title. He can play around in Code S and Code A as zerg though and maybe make another final
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 21 2012 10:38 GMT
#835
On February 21 2012 19:36 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:35 Oboeman wrote:
Can you hallucinate high templar?


Yep, you can. Hallucinated templar get 1shotted by snipe though, since hallucinations take twice as much damage.


damn. Maybe keep them all in one clump as EMP bait?
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
February 21 2012 10:38 GMT
#836
On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?

Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup...


Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them?


I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup.


Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast.


Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads.



I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed!


I'm pretty sure you're qq'ing.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 21 2012 10:39 GMT
#837
Seed actually has a decent chance vs July or Leenock since neither is particularly strong vP
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 21 2012 10:39 GMT
#838
On February 21 2012 19:37 VavPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:34 Teoita wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:33 VavPK wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:31 Horseballs wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 Exarl25 wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?

Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup...


Really? Did you not see Boxer suicide every single Ghost he had without doing a single hitpoint of damage with them?


I believe he is referring to more than just the game currently on hand. QQ aside, I've always found TvP to be a boring matchup in SC2 - both when terran was winning and when protoss was winning. I dislike the bio aesthetic and I really hate the deathball into 1 battle thing that has always dominated the matchup.


Someone who isnt tunnel visioned. Thank god. I am not referring to just that last game, clearly... first game is a little more relative but I just mean the matchup in general. Protoss can misplay multiple times yet still be in good shape vs terran, yet if terran does one little thing wrong they have to be 3x the player as the protoss to pull it off. Storm is just too strong right now, it seems like terrans just are missing something in the matchup but they simply aren't, bio is the only way to go and it melts way too fast.


Stop the qq. Balance whining is for Battle.net threads, not LR threads.



I do believe I am entitled to my opinion here? I am not "qq'ing" at all, congrats to seed for the win. I am glad he won actually, because once HotS comes out if it does its job balance wise protosses are going to have to use more than 1 hand to beat terrans. Grats seed!


I'm gonna warn you there, some more messages like this one and you will be temp banned from TL for sure. (I know, I did the same not long ago ;D)
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
February 21 2012 10:39 GMT
#839
On February 21 2012 19:34 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:29 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:27 iamthedave wrote:
Storms are really a bit ridiculous in P v T, aren't they?

Zerg player here, but something is definitely off in this matchup...

They are ridiculous when you lose 10 ghosts with no emps or snipes going off

yeah, if you land all your storms you obv win, but its pretty easy to avoid them cos of EMP/snipe and also cos of how slow HT are. You shuoldnt be getting hit by storms at all in TvP, or youre doing something wrong


Huh what? We have been seeing HT much earlier in TvP lately, when you really can't afford ghosts, and this is the time where they are REALLY strong, All you can do as Terran is try to mitigate the damage enough so that you can try to kill the army after all of the storms have been used up after already spreading your army out, and even that is really a pipe dream.

why exactly cant you get ghost out that early? they are cheaper than HT....
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DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
February 21 2012 10:39 GMT
#840
On February 21 2012 19:38 eericson000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 19:36 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:35 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 21 2012 19:29 VavPK wrote:
Protoss will get nerfed, protoss can mess up soo much but if terran screws up once its over. Stupid.


Utter BS. Protoss messes up one FF early game and terran can stim a move for the win. Or toss gets all HTs stimmed and army gets rolled. Or toss engages slightly wrong against 1-1-1 siege outside ramp and gg.


This, missing FFs early game is the bane of my existance

Toss can also not play aggressive against terran and can still get ahead unless terran plays aggressively.


That's great. I'm not arguing with anyone about balance. I'm saying the idea that protoss can get away with not making any mistakes is complete crap.
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