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On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv).
IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage.
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Sleep so chill. This tournament has really nice quality.
Done by college people is pretty impressive.
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On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv).
Thats the downside. Everything Bo3 would be fair. But then the final could be over very fast.
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On March 19 2012 09:52 Golgotha wrote:how can u not like this guy. damn he played well.
You can't. It's not possible
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I pray Stephano loses every time. So yeah, Polt/Sleep, lesser of evils, gogogo!
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Bitterdam keeps gettin better and better. I love them.
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Iceland4053 Posts
On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage.
Well there is an advantage, even if you don't see it(if you don't, well I don't what to say about that). I just wonder if there should be, or rather if this was thought out, that the winner bracket player would have an advantage, more than just the straight up not having lost a series yet.
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On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage.
the winner of the winners brackets finals has to win 5 games in total, the losers' bracket finalist has to win at least 6 games, at most 7 games. the winners' bracket finalist has to win 1-2 less game to win the tournament. that's the advantage.
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Nice save of the overlord.
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Anyone think there's way too many good spot for Overlord on this map ? ><
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On March 19 2012 09:55 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage. the winner of the winners brackets finals has to win 5 games in total, the losers' bracket finalist has to win at least 6 games, at most 7 games. the winners' bracket finalist has to win 1-2 less game to win the tournament. that's the advantage.
They both have to win two series'. You're almost advocating extended series.
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On March 19 2012 09:55 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage. Well there is an advantage, even if you don't see it(if you don't, well I don't what to say about that). I just wonder if there should be, or rather if this was thought out, that the winner bracket player would have an advantage, more than just the straight up not having lost a series yet.
The other way would be to have something like a bo9 finals with the WB player start 2 games up. I know the finals of The Defense (joindota's recent dota tournament) had a bo5 series with the WB team starting one game up, and it worked out really well.
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On March 19 2012 09:56 XenocideFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:55 msjakofsky wrote:On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage. the winner of the winners brackets finals has to win 5 games in total, the losers' bracket finalist has to win at least 6 games, at most 7 games. the winners' bracket finalist has to win 1-2 less game to win the tournament. that's the advantage. They both have to win two series'. You're almost advocating extended series.
i'm not advocating anything, just explaining. the losers' bracket winner has to win more games than the winner bracket winner. that's not an advantage to you?
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On March 19 2012 09:54 Bashion wrote:
Bitterdam keeps gettin better and better. I love them.
I am afraid that they wont get the finals. Because they are casting the semis...
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Its the same push he used in assembly. Reactor hellion (6) into 2 more barracks + 2nd gas + starport. He'll push with 1 marauder, ~14-18 marines and 2 medivacs and obviously the 6 hellions. While he does that he will take a 3rd base and add an ebay and 3 more barracks as well as a second factory.
With that push he is aiming to kill the 3rd.
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On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:On March 19 2012 09:34 Benjamin80 wrote:
Polt better stomp Sleep becuase I want BO5 Polt/Stephano the games are amasing You'd get better than that. Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage.
It's a double elimination tounramnet. You lose twice and than your out. Doesn't matter at all about how long the series is.
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United States15275 Posts
Sleep playing scared? No reason to get all that tech without some reliable indicator.
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I love sleeps playstyle....
So methodical and devious
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Where did that guy giving the 5 minute gametime updates go? I am @ work and can't stream but can have msgboard up to check in from time to time 
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On March 19 2012 09:58 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:56 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:55 msjakofsky wrote:On March 19 2012 09:52 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:50 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:45 XenocideFTW wrote:On March 19 2012 09:44 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:41 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:On March 19 2012 09:37 Zarahtra wrote:On March 19 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote:
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You'd get better than that.
Double bo5 incoming § Better be that/ Surely it must be a Bo3 + Bo5 since Stephano only won 1x Bo3 against Polt already... because it's grand final so stephano would need to win a BO5. the second BO5 is to make up for the fact that stephano has not had a loss yet. Yer, but normally it's kind of "you must be put down in loser bracket before you are on equal terms with the one coming from the loser bracket". Polt has only lost 1x Bo3, if he looses to Stephano the first Bo5, he has only lost 1x Bo3 and 1x Bo5 compared to, for him to win, Stephano has to loose 2x Bo5. It gives an advantage to the winner bracket... winner, which although I'm not totally against, just isn't normally like that. No, it's literally ALWAYS like that. Well I can't really find an example other than MLG in a similar spot, since I don't know double elimination which aren't just a Bo1 with a possible 2nd Bo1, but if we compare to MLG, they just always have Bo3(which although sucks, still makes it so the winner doesn't come with an advantage other than just still havent lost a series). My point is merely that Bo3 != Bo5, so basically now Stephano has to loose more than Polt has to, to end up 2nd(this all assuming Polt wins obv). IMO the length of the series is irrelevant. Stop thinking of it as BO3, BO5, etc. And know that they EACH have to win two series against each other, I don't see an imbalance/advantage. the winner of the winners brackets finals has to win 5 games in total, the losers' bracket finalist has to win at least 6 games, at most 7 games. the winners' bracket finalist has to win 1-2 less game to win the tournament. that's the advantage. They both have to win two series'. You're almost advocating extended series. i'm not advocating anything, just explaining. the losers' bracket winner has to win more games than the winner bracket winner. that's not an advantage to you?
In a DE tournament, everyone has 2 lives, doesn't matter if there's an advantage or disadvantage or not. In fact, people who lose early should be grateful because in a SE tournament they'd be out of the tournament.
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