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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
You can and he certainly could. He was banking money while still playing a lot of marauders, he also had the gas. The only thing that hurts you if you have so many ghosts is if you slip in viking production or miss them hiding colossi. If they hit you with 6-9 colossi and you didn't build up vikings you die. But yeah, a mass ghost style would never lose to a army composition that is zealot archon and a few templars. | ||
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
On March 19 2012 02:56 Meovin- wrote: How is it possible for a protoss to lose a fight where you hit storms like that :S Sometimes I don't understand why the terrans dislike tvp late game You were saying? | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:03 Dfgj wrote: I agree tbh, I find it far more annoying to play vs Ts that chill on 50~ scvs and match my 70 probes with mules to have more army supply. Amusingly, Demuslim's drops let Bling's bad macro create an even bigger army and win. Exactly, DeMu was down 20 army supply, had like 2 drops which is 20 more supply flying around the map, ofcourse he is going to lose the head-on fights, but he shouldn't if he doesn't have 75 scv's. Dunno, just seems weird to me. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Did I?-_- | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:02 Fyzar wrote: Reposting this, cause it died in all the protoss hate comments ;p. This is what I never understand about terrans playing lategame, versus Zerg they sacrifice their SCV's, but why not versus Protoss? Isn't that supposed to be their thang, having a way bigger army supply due to MULEs? Hmmm...vs Zerg you can make the transition to mass OC because your army is cost-effective enough to survive the transition period (which is very expensive). Vs Protoss, I'm not sure how you can do the mass mule without getting walked over. | ||
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Lillpapps
Sweden99 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:03 iAmiAnC wrote: Have u watched those games? It was 3 Gate expand vs 2 Rax 8 minute games Actually it was 1 gate expand and when he managed to defend the 2 rax he added gates and attacked. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:02 Fyzar wrote: Reposting this, cause it died in all the protoss hate comments ;p. This is what I never understand about terrans playing lategame, versus Zerg they sacrifice their SCV's, but why not versus Protoss? Isn't that supposed to be their thang, having a way bigger army supply due to MULEs? Korean Terrans are beginning to do this but afaik there haven't been many foreigner T's to sac their SCVs in this matchup, GanZi and MMA do it quite often in late-late game scenarios, but DeMu did actually lose scvs, he just remade them the entire time >.> | ||
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S2Lunar
1051 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:01 Type|NarutO wrote: 30 3-3 Ghost would have won that fight without much of a problem. Too bad Terrans don't like Ghosts :/. Rofl. You have no idea. Good luck affording 30 3-3 Ghost AND retaining all of them throughout the game buddy, that's way too unrealistic. Retaining your extremely expensive Ghost during trades/engagements is near impossible, they may be sturdy, but for their cost, not so much. It's highly impractical/impossible to go pure mass ghost vs Protoss because of cost, supply, and the fact that they have to have support. Go find me a game were a terran went 30+ Ghost vs Terran and wins. Thanks. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:01 Type|NarutO wrote: 30 3-3 Ghost would have won that fight without much of a problem. Too bad Terrans don't like Ghosts :/. That and you really have to kill the observers which is over your army most of the game. I really dont see why he allowed bling to keep his obs hanging over such exposed spots so long | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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d00p
711 Posts
On March 19 2012 02:50 Flanq wrote: Does anyone else think it's really nice to see inc doing better? Sure he does cannon rush into 2 base timings, but 3 or 4 months ago he'd probably already have lost. For all the shit he gets the practise does slowly seem to be paying dividends for him. It's pretty dissapointing that he lost to a completely no name player tbh, granted that Heavens has been playing pretty great. I expected him to win this one. That would have made it a positive showing. Now it's kind of meh.. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:05 Lillpapps wrote: Actually it was 1 gate expand and when he managed to defend the 2 rax he added gates and attacked. Nope both games were 2 rax. | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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Quimbos
Canada32 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:02 Fyzar wrote: Reposting this, cause it died in all the protoss hate comments ;p. This is what I never understand about terrans playing lategame, versus Zerg they sacrifice their SCV's, but why not versus Protoss? Isn't that supposed to be their thang, having a way bigger army supply due to MULEs? Bio is really mineral heavy. In order to ditch scv's, you need to throw down 3-4 CC's and turn them in to orbitals. Demuslim was never floating minerals through that game... he was constantly using all his resources to rebuild his army. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:05 d00p wrote: It's pretty dissapointing that he lost to a completely no name player tbh, granted that Heavens has been playing pretty great. I expected him to win this one. That would have made it a positive showing. Now it's kind of meh.. With the exception of the VERY beginning of SC2 incontrol has never been a good player (as far as progamers go). No one should be surprised at him losing. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:06 ceaRshaf wrote: This game wasn't close. If Bling produced while the fight was going on the game would have ended a lot faster and more decisive. We now have the illusion that Demuslim deserved to win just because Bling made one mistake. Lets be real, Demu couldn't get anywhere not even after he managed to stay alive after two big fights. This means he was far far behind. Also a good point, if Bling had had sufficient gates up before he lost his army, he'd have rolled over Demuslim completely. | ||
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elanobissen
Denmark244 Posts
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