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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#281
That has to be at least a point on his shave scale.
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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#282
On February 15 2012 11:16 Seraphone wrote:
LOL Doa, people don't 'just do that' because it's a stupid and terrible build which has basically zero chance to work if your opponent has any idea what you're doing. It works because no one does it (which sums up a lot of TLO's wins).

Also doesn't really work vs supply depots. Heck, if marineking just went mass marines, TLO would have got rolled.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#283
Haha how can people hate after that game. Low econ, high aggression, non-cheesy, total control whole game. Well played TLO.
oldahe
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria534 Posts
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#284
gogo TLO:

http://tinyurl.com/7syqkxa
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#285
roach drops on the way to slice creator like a cream cake.
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 02:22:57
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#286
tlo has a way of always showing a game of this caliber just when i'm about to expect him no more being able to. it was a bit drawn out due to his shortcomings in macro. i believe he could have pressed his economical advantage slightly more at times instead of focusing 100% aggression, especially since i'd consider it an "easier" and less volatile approach - but what do i know. this was much more fun to watch though. great set, hwaiting
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 02:21:46
February 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#287
Poor analysis by Doa. TLO had a very low drone count for the whole game and if not for his early pressure doing so much damage, he would have lost badly. I just find it hilarious they talk of remaxing when TLO has 0 minerals and 110 supply. Its as though they don't understand the fundamentals of zerg play at all.


he wouldnt have been able to do that much damage if hed been making drones instead of zerglings.

he doesnt need to "remax" when MKP is at 70 food and he's at 110, he just has to keep applying pressure to keep MKP's food low. i dont think MKP got above 140 food at any point in that game. "remax" was a bad choice of words by the casters but what they meant was keeping far enough ahead to keep killing 90% of MKPs army over and over again.

honestly this kind of "analysis" is the bane of LR =/
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Maxentius
Profile Joined May 2011
69 Posts
February 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#288
On February 15 2012 11:18 NachiMe wrote:
is this played on KR or NA server? MKP's splitting and reactions seem a bit sluggish


IPL defaults to NA, unless the players can agree on another server (e.g. Two EU players would agree to play on EU). If TLO is in Europe and MKP is presumably on Seoul I think they might agree on NA so neither has the latency advantage.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#289
I love TLO. So much. Can't wait to see how he does back in Korea. :D

Not sure what his chances are against Creator, though.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#290
On February 15 2012 11:18 NachiMe wrote:
is this played on KR or NA server? MKP's splitting and reactions seem a bit sluggish


Wut? He has had some sick splits and pickups in all of the games....
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
February 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#291
On February 15 2012 11:20 Maxentius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:18 NachiMe wrote:
is this played on KR or NA server? MKP's splitting and reactions seem a bit sluggish


IPL defaults to NA, unless the players can agree on another server (e.g. Two EU players would agree to play on EU). If TLO is in Europe and MKP is presumably on Seoul I think they might agree on NA so neither has the latency advantage.


No one wins KR-EU,
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
February 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#292
On February 15 2012 11:19 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:16 Seraphone wrote:
LOL Doa, people don't 'just do that' because it's a stupid and terrible build which has basically zero chance to work if your opponent has any idea what you're doing. It works because no one does it (which sums up a lot of TLO's wins).


It's pretty clear you have not heard of this player called "Stephano" and his style and many wins.


Stephano is the best example ever of how gimmicky play only works when your opponents don't expect it.

Stephano has a terrible record vs Korean Terran's since they all discovered he's goes Infestor/Ling every game.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
February 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#293
What did DOA say about daybreak ... my stream is lagging so bad I only hear half of what they are saying T.T
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
February 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#294
TLO has been my favorite player from the beginning . . . despite problems, I enjoy his play. Seeing him win like this against Marine King has just made my week!!
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
February 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#295
On February 15 2012 11:22 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:19 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On February 15 2012 11:16 Seraphone wrote:
LOL Doa, people don't 'just do that' because it's a stupid and terrible build which has basically zero chance to work if your opponent has any idea what you're doing. It works because no one does it (which sums up a lot of TLO's wins).


It's pretty clear you have not heard of this player called "Stephano" and his style and many wins.


Stephano is the best example ever of how gimmicky play only works when your opponents don't expect it.

Stephano has a terrible record vs Korean Terran's since they all discovered he's goes Infestor/Ling every game.

Since when was infestor/ling gimmicky? And last time I checked his record was pretty decent.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#296
On February 15 2012 11:22 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:19 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On February 15 2012 11:16 Seraphone wrote:
LOL Doa, people don't 'just do that' because it's a stupid and terrible build which has basically zero chance to work if your opponent has any idea what you're doing. It works because no one does it (which sums up a lot of TLO's wins).


It's pretty clear you have not heard of this player called "Stephano" and his style and many wins.


Stephano is the best example ever of how gimmicky play only works when your opponents don't expect it.

Stephano has a terrible record vs Korean Terran's since they all discovered he's goes Infestor/Ling every game.

And when was that?
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
February 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#297
On February 15 2012 11:19 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:16 Seraphone wrote:
LOL Doa, people don't 'just do that' because it's a stupid and terrible build which has basically zero chance to work if your opponent has any idea what you're doing. It works because no one does it (which sums up a lot of TLO's wins).

Also doesn't really work vs supply depots. Heck, if marineking just went mass marines, TLO would have got rolled.


..............................

You guys............

Is it out of the realms of possibility that TLO has studied MKP and realised he might be weak to that attack? Maybe the map played a factor?

TLO doesn't just pick a random insane strat and execute, he makes smart decisions that few other players make, backed by really solid mechanics and game sense.

That game was a perfect example. Well microed (i.e. split at beginning and then grab small groups of lings to target down tanks) along with solid fundamentals (hitting every inject so he could keep up the swarm, having the right amount of drones to support it).

Final comment: "Heck, if marineking just went mass marines, TLO would have got rolled."

You think if TLO had seen mass marine or a tell for mass marine, he'd still have done it? If he'd seen a well prepared wallin he'd have amoved lings into it?

You give him far too little credit. It was WP.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
February 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#298
prime with that sick artosis pylon, makes me =) to see it
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#299
tlo shutting a lot of haters up, love it
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
February 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#300
On February 15 2012 11:20 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:18 NachiMe wrote:
is this played on KR or NA server? MKP's splitting and reactions seem a bit sluggish


Wut? He has had some sick splits and pickups in all of the games....

It's not very crisp, tbh. Not sure what's happening, but sometimes he just runs his marines back to the tanks instead of splitting them, where I felt that splitting them would be by far the better option.There was also moments where he didn't react as fast and some of his units got trapped. Just my 2 cents
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