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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
February 11 2012 07:37 GMT
#601
happy and sad protoss are bringing warp prisms with their attacks more and more. it's so nice having that instant reinforcement where/when you need it instead of relying on a pylon that probably is out of position. sad cuz its scary ;_;
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
February 11 2012 07:37 GMT
#602
PvZ still a boring matchup.

Also, what is actually going on with TSL? It seems like the team where players go to get worse :/
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
February 11 2012 07:37 GMT
#603
Was a nice effort by Shine trying to use up the sentry energy without losing too much, but there was no possibility of stopping that 4 immortal death ball with roaches. Needed a different build there.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 11 2012 07:37 GMT
#604
On February 11 2012 16:32 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Hmmm, is this the immortal build Avenge used in Code A and GSTL?

It looks incredibly similar

no, its not.
in Avenge v idra/ avenga PvZ in team league,
the warp prism was built eariler, not after a 3rd immortal, and the prism is used to carry and hide the immortal, not for zealot stalkers harassment. Avenge had less sentries as well.
but anyway, toss won.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
February 11 2012 07:37 GMT
#605
On February 11 2012 16:35 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Well, the team with the better jackets won.


I love the jackets too.

NSH_Sculp for MVP.

Really glad NsH is still in the GSTL and moving on. Especially after IPL today and last weeks performance. Get that mojo back and start working
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 11 2012 07:38 GMT
#606
a question that has to be brought in : what exactly can zerg do against this ?
sad game
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 07:39:49
February 11 2012 07:38 GMT
#607
On February 11 2012 16:38 Arceus wrote:
a question that has to be brought in : what exactly can zerg do against this ?
sad game


Fast infestors works? Maybe infestor-hydra-ling could work.

On February 11 2012 16:37 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:32 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2012 16:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Hmmm, is this the immortal build Avenge used in Code A and GSTL?

It looks incredibly similar

no, its not.
in Avenge v idra/ avenga PvZ in team league,
the warp prism was built eariler, not after a 3rd immortal, and the prism is used to carry and hide the immortal, not for zealot stalkers harassment. Avenge had less sentries as well.
but anyway, toss won.


Similar idea/gameplan though. Knowing Sage, he probably refined to it work to his style/better.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 11 2012 07:39 GMT
#608
On February 11 2012 16:37 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:32 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2012 16:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Hmmm, is this the immortal build Avenge used in Code A and GSTL?

It looks incredibly similar

no, its not.
in Avenge v idra/ avenga PvZ in team league,
the warp prism was built eariler, not after a 3rd immortal, and the prism is used to carry and hide the immortal, not for zealot stalkers harassment. Avenge had less sentries as well.
but anyway, toss won.


Uh the warp prism was the first unit built.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 11 2012 07:39 GMT
#609
On February 11 2012 16:38 Arceus wrote:
a question that has to be brought in : what exactly can zerg do against this ?
sad game

hydra was a pretty good idea, but its late.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 11 2012 07:39 GMT
#610
Haha... the fact that he didn't know what was going on made that ceremony even funnier.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 11 2012 07:39 GMT
#611
On February 11 2012 16:36 MorroW wrote:
rofl at this game really absurd. he killed like 50 roaches without losing any units.
zerg denied warp prism entirely and scouted the robo etc. he had hydra den to build hydras but didnt and im not sure why

anyhow gj sage that game just made my head hurt. i thought zerg would stop that easily lol


Yeh hydras seem to be the best unit to fight that. But then it would be hard to bait out forcefields.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 11 2012 07:39 GMT
#612
On February 11 2012 16:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:37 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On February 11 2012 16:32 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2012 16:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Hmmm, is this the immortal build Avenge used in Code A and GSTL?

It looks incredibly similar

no, its not.
in Avenge v idra/ avenga PvZ in team league,
the warp prism was built eariler, not after a 3rd immortal, and the prism is used to carry and hide the immortal, not for zealot stalkers harassment. Avenge had less sentries as well.
but anyway, toss won.


Uh the warp prism was the first unit built.

i mean in game time (cloak) sense, not referring to the sequence of robo production.
eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
February 11 2012 07:40 GMT
#613
I am so bored by all these gateway + 1 tech path 2 base pushes being so effective.

Neither zerg nor terran really have 2 base timings quite like this.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 11 2012 07:40 GMT
#614
On February 11 2012 16:38 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:38 Arceus wrote:
a question that has to be brought in : what exactly can zerg do against this ?
sad game


Fast infestors works? Maybe infestor-hydra-ling could work.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:37 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On February 11 2012 16:32 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2012 16:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Hmmm, is this the immortal build Avenge used in Code A and GSTL?

It looks incredibly similar

no, its not.
in Avenge v idra/ avenga PvZ in team league,
the warp prism was built eariler, not after a 3rd immortal, and the prism is used to carry and hide the immortal, not for zealot stalkers harassment. Avenge had less sentries as well.
but anyway, toss won.


Similar idea/gameplan though. Knowing Sage, he probably refined to it work to his style/better.


It would work but its abit of overkill, I think hydra/ling. Making sure you have Hydra range so the forcefields are less powerful
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 11 2012 07:41 GMT
#615
On February 11 2012 16:40 eloist wrote:
I am so bored by all these gateway + 1 tech path 2 base pushes being so effective.

Neither zerg nor terran really have 2 base timings quite like this.

2 base mm stim timing?
roach-lings agression?
they might not be as strong, but they attack earlier.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 11 2012 07:41 GMT
#616
On February 11 2012 16:38 Arceus wrote:
a question that has to be brought in : what exactly can zerg do against this ?
sad game


http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66838

squirtle vs seal game 1.

infestors. Seal delayed his 3rd for a faster lair so he had infestors come out for the second engagement. The first battle looked exactly the same, where it felt like zerg had overwhelming force but everything disappeared, then he fungaled the army four times while making as many lings as he could and killed it.

And then it took him 40 more minutes to win the game after holding the push.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
February 11 2012 07:42 GMT
#617
Going to be much harder for NSH vs Prime next week(or whenever). Prime does have 3 strong players for each race unlike TSL who has 1 strong Terran and 1 strong(unproven) Zerg in Symbol. Going to suffer a bit with protoss in the ascendant at the moment but, should be able to use this time to rebuild and get stronger.

Really wish they were in KSL so they could practice this style of team league though.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
February 11 2012 07:42 GMT
#618
startaleQ versus IM?

naniwa versus nestea maybe?
you live and you learn
eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
February 11 2012 07:43 GMT
#619
On February 11 2012 16:41 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 16:40 eloist wrote:
I am so bored by all these gateway + 1 tech path 2 base pushes being so effective.

Neither zerg nor terran really have 2 base timings quite like this.

2 base mm stim timing?
roach-lings agression?
they might not be as strong, but they attack earlier.

They are higher risk and in the case of roach ling it is often reactionary.

These protoss pushes are basically opening bids that are 13 minutes in the making.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 11 2012 07:43 GMT
#620
Wow, that was fast.
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