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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 09 2012 13:38 GMT
#3761
On February 09 2012 22:37 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:34 NewK wrote:
Just thougt I'd link this for anyone who hasn't seen it XD

http://i.imgur.com/wAhOA.png

Zerg>Terran>Protoss!

Yet Protoss players are dominating GSL ;D It was bound to happen sooner or later :p Harder race breeds better players gg!



I don't think the International results has much effect on the Korean scene seeing as almost every foreinger gets smashed ones they get there


Yeah, I pretty much ignore international winrates. My personal belief is that the Korean ones are all that matter since the best players deserve balance the most.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 09 2012 13:38 GMT
#3762
On February 09 2012 22:34 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:33 Zealot Lord wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:31 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:27 SpunXtain wrote:
Just some fun facts about the current state of the game:

Protoss' who started in GSL Code S and made Ro8: 4/8 (50%)
Terran who started in GSL Code S and made Ro8: 3/15 (20%)
Zergs who started in GSL Code Sand made Ro8: 1/9 (11%)

Just by playing Protoss you got a 50% chance to make it to Ro8. :-)


I agree, it is mainly because PvT late game is a bit silly at the moment and PvZ has so many different rushes that require exact responses but could be only slightly different builds. Also warp gates are pretty nice.


ROFL - Quoting on yourself.. forgot to logout onto your other account to balance whine eh?


It was deliberate i was wondering if anyone would notice. :-)


Good one, that's believable.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
February 09 2012 13:39 GMT
#3763
On February 09 2012 22:31 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:29 Gackt_ wrote:
Cant believe that there are no Zergs left in Code S except one..tbfh i hope no Zerg advance to Code S, then Blizz gets forced to buff the race after a couple weeks...or months.. or years. :S Like..give the gueen some greater speed offcreep at least or something.

Good games today tho, I liked it.


To be fair, two out of nine Zergs that started in Code S were foreigners that simply got trounced really early. I think Zerg does need more top talent, though. DRG and Nestea can't carry alone. I expected Curious and Leenock to do better, though.


I kinda agree on the fact that there are not that many "good" zergs in GSL, you often see the zerg making really odd decision making and loosing the game because of that, and sometimes their army control isn't impressive (ex : nestea loosing freely a ton of muta where he could at least tryed to stutter step and kill some phenix), except in their mirror matchup where they micro their heart out.
As the zerg, I really hope to see new impressive zerg comming in the GSL, because there's not many player to root for and to steal build of :/. The only zerg I really like to see play are leenock and DRG (and stephano for the foreigners, because his unit control is sooooo good) .
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 09 2012 13:39 GMT
#3764
On February 09 2012 22:38 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:28 Flexis wrote:
MC vs DRG finals?!?!?

That would be great ! I like both players and I don't want MMA or another terran in final. Anyway it's great that 4 protoss are gonna make it to RO8 And I hope DRG can make it to the finals as well.


na, no MC finals... Wanna see some great long games, not 6gate, 8gate, 7gate blink and 4gate...
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:39 GMT
#3765
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.

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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 09 2012 13:39 GMT
#3766
On February 09 2012 22:38 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:28 Flexis wrote:
MC vs DRG finals?!?!?

That would be great ! I like both players and I don't want MMA or another terran in final. Anyway it's great that 4 protoss are gonna make it to RO8 And I hope DRG can make it to the finals as well.


Yes, great finals. 2 base timings for an awesome final... DRG has shown to be great in finals though.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
February 09 2012 13:40 GMT
#3767
I caught the last two games which Genius won and I am impressed. His play is as solid as can be. Often times I see other toss simply bluffing by playing greedy. Sometimes they get away with it, but when they don't massive QQ follows. But as Genius showed today you don't need to play greedy to win. You just have to be smart and patient.
jammedk
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark315 Posts
February 09 2012 13:40 GMT
#3768
I greatly fear that I will be suffering from severe Code-S withdrawal symptoms, these upcoming days.

So many good games in RO16 :-)
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:42:25
February 09 2012 13:40 GMT
#3769
On February 09 2012 22:38 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:37 Cereb wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:34 NewK wrote:
Just thougt I'd link this for anyone who hasn't seen it XD

http://i.imgur.com/wAhOA.png

Zerg>Terran>Protoss!

Yet Protoss players are dominating GSL ;D It was bound to happen sooner or later :p Harder race breeds better players gg!



I don't think the International results has much effect on the Korean scene seeing as almost every foreinger gets smashed ones they get there


Yeah, I pretty much ignore international winrates. My personal belief is that the Korean ones are all that matter since the best players deserve balance the most.


The stats for last month in korea says Z>P btw. And 1 zerg 3 terran 4 protoss in ro8. Stuff happens :D No need to look to hard into it.

Oh my memory was too bad here, it was international. Nvm.
Revolutionist fan
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 09 2012 13:41 GMT
#3770
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


Have you ever seen this ever happen? If you're gonna balance whine (which you shouldn't), at least whine about something that makes sense, like Collosus or Psy Storm. Whining about feedback is pretty lolsy.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:41 GMT
#3771
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 09 2012 13:41 GMT
#3772
On February 09 2012 22:39 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:38 samurai80 wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:28 Flexis wrote:
MC vs DRG finals?!?!?

That would be great ! I like both players and I don't want MMA or another terran in final. Anyway it's great that 4 protoss are gonna make it to RO8 And I hope DRG can make it to the finals as well.


na, no MC finals... Wanna see some great long games, not 6gate, 8gate, 7gate blink and 4gate...

You realize puzzle and parting did just as many timing attacks?
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 09 2012 13:41 GMT
#3773
Korea Only

http://i.imgur.com/ugiXEh.png

Seems pretty close to damn balance to me
People need to stop bitchin in LR.
Go do so in Designated Balance Thread!
moo...for DRG
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 09 2012 13:41 GMT
#3774
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


So you're purposely quoting yourself now to make it look like your initial slip-up was intentional? That's cute.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#3775
On February 09 2012 22:41 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .


Stop spamming and quoting yourself. Or learn how to log-in to your alt account better.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong748 Posts
February 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#3776
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
February 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#3777
OMG? Nestea lost a ZvZ series? How long ago did that happen last?
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#3778
I hope/think DRG/Genius/Puzzle/DRG will make it to the RO4.

Well concerning MC vs genius actually it's very hard to say who's gonna win but this should be the most epic PvP ever (well if u consider PvP can sometimes be epic).
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:42 GMT
#3779
On February 09 2012 22:41 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


Have you ever seen this ever happen? If you're gonna balance whine (which you shouldn't), at least whine about something that makes sense, like Collosus or Psy Storm. Whining about feedback is pretty lolsy.


Feedback is why tier 3 terran units are not viable - the race is forced to stay low-tier and fight an uphill battle against stronger units, because their *theoretical* late-game tech trees are so easily countered. I don't think that is too hard to comprehend, is it?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 09 2012 13:43 GMT
#3780
On February 09 2012 22:42 Zealot Lord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.


isn't this considered spamming or something like that?
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