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SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:43 GMT
#3781
On February 09 2012 22:42 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:41 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .


Stop spamming and quoting yourself. Or learn how to log-in to your alt account better.


Why would I make an alt account, that is a bannable offense you realize. Do you have alt accounts???
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 09 2012 13:43 GMT
#3782
aLive
MMA


MMA wins cause he's a beast tvt



MC
Genius

MC Wins cause he is a beast pvp


GuMiho
Puzzle

This match doesn't matter cause non of them are gonna be GSL champs.


PartinG
DongRaeGu

PartinG wins cause he is on fire and Zergs are doing horribly vs Protoss this season


Then MC wins vs MMA cause MMA is not good enough vs toss.

Then Parting wins vs one of the two scrubs (Puzzle or GuMiho)


And then we have the first pvp final in GSL history
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
February 09 2012 13:44 GMT
#3783
It will be a TvP finals and then the T will finally reveal the 1/1/1's big brother. An unstoppable force the 2/2/2! Then everyone would flock back to the Sad Zealot fanclub and the world would be back to normal with T winning everything!
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:44 GMT
#3784
On February 09 2012 22:43 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:42 Zealot Lord wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.


isn't this considered spamming or something like that?


How is quoting urself spamming.. if so, I think everyone doing these "play-by-plays" like Seeker - who we appreciate - would be banned for that.
jupiter6
Profile Joined December 2011
205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:44:44
February 09 2012 13:44 GMT
#3785
On February 09 2012 22:38 Salteador Neo wrote:
I wonder what happened to all those terran 1 base allins in TvP. Code S players too solid to use them? They had sick sick winrates the past weeks/months.

they got nerfed+ protoss got buffed (which also result in stronger death ball late game t.t), also people figured out timings and counters
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 09 2012 13:45 GMT
#3786
On February 09 2012 22:43 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:42 Witten wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:41 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .


Stop spamming and quoting yourself. Or learn how to log-in to your alt account better.


Why would I make an alt account, that is a bannable offense you realize. Do you have alt accounts???


I dunno but you need to stop making you look like a fool by quoting and agreeing with yourself.
Revolutionist fan
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 09 2012 13:45 GMT
#3787
On February 09 2012 22:43 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:42 Witten wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:41 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .


Stop spamming and quoting yourself. Or learn how to log-in to your alt account better.


Why would I make an alt account, that is a bannable offense you realize. Do you have alt accounts???


Quoting yourself three times to balance whine while agreeing with the previous poster in the hope people don't realise that it's you is looked favorably upon?
@followMVT
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 09 2012 13:45 GMT
#3788
On February 09 2012 22:39 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:38 samurai80 wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:28 Flexis wrote:
MC vs DRG finals?!?!?

That would be great ! I like both players and I don't want MMA or another terran in final. Anyway it's great that 4 protoss are gonna make it to RO8 And I hope DRG can make it to the finals as well.


Yes, great finals. 2 base timings for an awesome final... DRG has shown to be great in finals though.

well I don't say the final itself would be awesome, I said that I would like both players to be in finals. Indeed it might end into short games (though I'm pretty sure some of them would be be epic too).
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:47:37
February 09 2012 13:46 GMT
#3789
On February 09 2012 22:43 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:42 Witten wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:41 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .


Stop spamming and quoting yourself. Or learn how to log-in to your alt account better.


Why would I make an alt account, that is a bannable offense you realize. Do you have alt accounts???

Srsly stop trolling, it's incredibly annoying. I don't balance whine in LR threads so I don't need an alt account to agree with myself to make people take me seriously. Also I don't make a post, then quote myself and reply to it as if I'm another person. Also, insinuating that Seeker doing an LR thread is similar to you quoting yourself to agree with it is the same thing is really insulting to Seeker, who is helping a lot of people with his LR's.

On topic of what this LR is about, great games today. Really sad that MKP lost D: but happy that at least 1 Zerg made it. 2 PvTs, 1 TvT and 1 ZvP sounds like a good Ro8 to me :D.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:46 GMT
#3790
On February 09 2012 22:45 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:43 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:42 Witten wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:41 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


^This. I don't think I've seen a TvP late game end well for terran this whole season.. . .


Stop spamming and quoting yourself. Or learn how to log-in to your alt account better.


Why would I make an alt account, that is a bannable offense you realize. Do you have alt accounts???


Quoting yourself three times to balance whine while agreeing with the previous poster in the hope people don't realise that it's you is looked favorably upon?


You realise if I wanted people to not notice I could either A) change the name in the quote or B) remove it or C) simply not quote it at all, right.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 09 2012 13:47 GMT
#3791
On February 09 2012 22:44 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:43 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:42 Zealot Lord wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.


isn't this considered spamming or something like that?


How is quoting urself spamming.. if so, I think everyone doing these "play-by-plays" like Seeker - who we appreciate - would be banned for that.


I wouldn't compare quoting and agreeing with yourself to complain about balance to Seeker's awesome play-by-play that is entertaining and helps all those who can't watch the stream live.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 09 2012 13:47 GMT
#3792
On February 09 2012 22:44 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:43 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:42 Zealot Lord wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.


isn't this considered spamming or something like that?


How is quoting urself spamming.. if so, I think everyone doing these "play-by-plays" like Seeker - who we appreciate - would be banned for that.


You know, there is a reason why there a mods and not banbots. Mods think about why people do things and therefore can use something called brain to decide wether or not things like quoting oneself is spam or a necessary thing to do, when some LRs.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
February 09 2012 13:48 GMT
#3793
On February 09 2012 22:44 essencez wrote:
It will be a TvP finals and then the T will finally reveal the 1/1/1's big brother. An unstoppable force the 2/2/2! Then everyone would flock back to the Sad Zealot fanclub and the world would be back to normal with T winning everything!


Except that won't happen, because the GSL now uses a lot of maps where its easier to hold early game pressure and all-ins, just think of Puzzle vs SuperNova on Daybreak of this season, or SuperNova vs Oz on Metropolis.
What might happen is that P wins and the forums will be in an uproar of how P is imba/broken in late game, and the QQ won't end until Terrans figure out how to consistently beat P in late game.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
February 09 2012 13:49 GMT
#3794
It would be hilarious if the finals were Alive vs Gumiho. Imagine how empty the finals would be.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 09 2012 13:49 GMT
#3795
On February 09 2012 22:48 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:44 essencez wrote:
It will be a TvP finals and then the T will finally reveal the 1/1/1's big brother. An unstoppable force the 2/2/2! Then everyone would flock back to the Sad Zealot fanclub and the world would be back to normal with T winning everything!


Except that won't happen, because the GSL now uses a lot of maps where its easier to hold early game pressure and all-ins, just think of Puzzle vs SuperNova on Daybreak of this season, or SuperNova vs Oz on Metropolis.
What might happen is that P wins and the forums will be in an uproar of how P is imba/broken in late game, and the QQ won't end until Terrans figure out how to consistently beat P in late game.


Just wait until MMA busts out the true Terran power... the 3/3/3!!!
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
February 09 2012 13:49 GMT
#3796
On February 09 2012 22:47 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:44 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:43 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:42 Zealot Lord wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.


isn't this considered spamming or something like that?


How is quoting urself spamming.. if so, I think everyone doing these "play-by-plays" like Seeker - who we appreciate - would be banned for that.


You know, there is a reason why there a mods and not banbots. Mods think about why people do things and therefore can use something called brain to decide wether or not things like quoting oneself is spam or a necessary thing to do, when some LRs.


I notice noone disagrees with the statement itself, that protoss lategame is silly, but they all harp on the method of delivery.
zerker2strong
Profile Joined May 2011
775 Posts
February 09 2012 13:51 GMT
#3797
woot my liquidbets drg and genius :D
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
February 09 2012 13:51 GMT
#3798
On February 09 2012 22:44 essencez wrote:
It will be a TvP finals and then the T will finally reveal the 1/1/1's big brother. An unstoppable force the 2/2/2! Then everyone would flock back to the Sad Zealot fanclub and the world would be back to normal with T winning everything!


the 2-2-2... I think i just got a boner xD xD
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:52:37
February 09 2012 13:51 GMT
#3799
On February 09 2012 22:49 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:48 Destructicon wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:44 essencez wrote:
It will be a TvP finals and then the T will finally reveal the 1/1/1's big brother. An unstoppable force the 2/2/2! Then everyone would flock back to the Sad Zealot fanclub and the world would be back to normal with T winning everything!


Except that won't happen, because the GSL now uses a lot of maps where its easier to hold early game pressure and all-ins, just think of Puzzle vs SuperNova on Daybreak of this season, or SuperNova vs Oz on Metropolis.
What might happen is that P wins and the forums will be in an uproar of how P is imba/broken in late game, and the QQ won't end until Terrans figure out how to consistently beat P in late game.


Just wait until MMA busts out the true Terran power... the 3/3/3!!!


Truly terrifying, that Ghost-Thor-BC rush!
Liquipedia"Expert"
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 09 2012 13:52 GMT
#3800
On February 09 2012 22:49 SpunXtain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 22:47 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:44 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:43 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:42 Zealot Lord wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:39 SpunXtain wrote:
On February 09 2012 22:36 SpunXtain wrote:
The reason protoss aren't doing as well in Code A is that they're not as good at making the late game as the higher tier protoss players. If they hold early/mid game, protoss has a rediculous chance of winning the late game in PvT. Just sayin'.


I agree, but it's not really suprising. Terran tier 3 basically ALL have energy which can be manaburnt by feedback for 50 energy - basically one high templar can nullify 4 high tier terran units, many of which individually cost more than the templar itself. Coupled with the rediculous amount of splash damage the protoss units get (which shines in late game engagements where splitting everything is harder), terran is difficult to win with.


lol yeah.. quoting yourself a second time just to make it look like the first one was intentional =/
Don't even know what you are trying to get at, as friendly advice, you should stop before you get warned or banned.


isn't this considered spamming or something like that?


How is quoting urself spamming.. if so, I think everyone doing these "play-by-plays" like Seeker - who we appreciate - would be banned for that.


You know, there is a reason why there a mods and not banbots. Mods think about why people do things and therefore can use something called brain to decide wether or not things like quoting oneself is spam or a necessary thing to do, when some LRs.


I notice noone disagrees with the statement itself, that protoss lategame is silly, but they all harp on the method of delivery.



Why would anyone argue with you? It seems like you only want to argue with yourself anyway.

You are not supposed to go into in depth balance whining in LR threads anyway -_-;;
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
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