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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
February 09 2012 11:01 GMT
#2041
Personally hoping DRG and Nestea go through because there are no zergs in the round of 8 but MKP is boss-moding it up in TvP, that was great.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 09 2012 11:01 GMT
#2042
On February 09 2012 20:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On February 09 2012 20:00 Spiner wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:59 gladsheim wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:58 JJH777 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:56 Noktix wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:55 eYeball wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:53 MrCash wrote:
Not enough love for MKP from Tastosis or the majority of people who voted on matches.
One of the most unique and solid players in all of SC2.


Solid? Unique perhaps but solid I don't think so.


Uhh, what? Who has been around as longer than MKP?

Ever since SC2 came out he has been a world class player. He is totally solid.


MKP got knocked out in the ro32 of Code S like 4 times in a row and was in Code A for a season.


and hes been in like 3 finals?

not solid yeah sure mate


#1 ranked on the korean ladder consistently in all the seasons. Not solid at all bro.

6th in gsl points too

Currently also rank 1 by a landslide. No one even close.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 09 2012 11:01 GMT
#2043
On February 09 2012 19:58 IMPrime wrote:
MKP won because he hit a timing where protoss didn't have enough splash to deal with bio.

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On February 09 2012 19:56 Salteador Neo wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:55 architecture wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:53 frucisky wrote:
Hate to bring up the TvP whine yesterday but look at this. Can't believe that went on for so long yesterday..


MKP had BO advantages both games.

Need to see if he has a solution for the builds from yesterday.


Bullshit lol xD MKP went mass marine ghost NO viking against mass zealot collo and roflstomped.


He was running off of 3 CCs on 2 base while genius was 2basing. With that econ advantage, he can get enough units to overcome several colossi.


Which is not a BO advantage. That's just how mass bio works, good and efficient but not durable which lets you mass expand when there are no fights.

Terrans have been putting pressure with bio while taking the third against protoss forever. That's just how the matchup is.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2012 11:01 GMT
#2044
On February 09 2012 20:01 Sareth wrote:
Best GSL day ever?
Until now all games > 80% recommended :O

this group is doing fairly well at keeping up with the hype *knocks on wood*
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2045
I don't think I can keep LRing....

I'm about to pass out at this rate T-T
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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2046
On February 09 2012 19:57 MrCash wrote:
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On February 09 2012 19:55 eYeball wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:53 MrCash wrote:
Not enough love for MKP from Tastosis or the majority of people who voted on matches.
One of the most unique and solid players in all of SC2.


Solid? Unique perhaps but solid I don't think so.


His builds are unique, his mechanics are one of the best in all of the game.
The only consistent weakness he has had is how he approaches championship games, whether it is attitude or nerves is unknown, but he is no flake.

Even as a MKP fan I got agree with eYeball. He is always a force to be reckoned but there are times when he tilt really hard.
Like on the last game against Losira(KSL? or King of Kongs, can't remember) where he didn't wall-off keep throwing army away and eventually just died for zerglings run-by.

But his usual state is looking as solid as ever.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2047
On February 09 2012 19:59 gideel wrote:
It's really horseshit from artosis calling all of MKP's victories "build-order wins"

He outclassed the crap out of genius both games with superior play.

Mech is not autowin vs charge-lots nor does vikingless MM ghost without medivacs autowin vs colossus


I concur.
Pathetic Greta hater.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2048
The Terran Killer vs. The Terran Sweetheart next ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2049
I understand what Idra and lots of the Korean pros say about his play being retarded. He seems to either go all out allin or mass expand very greedy. Sometimes he does some random shit also, if you guess right you win but if you don't you lose. With terran being so hard to scout(without putting you behind), MKP comes out on top a lot doing this.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2050
That crowd! Sooo full :D
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2051
On February 09 2012 20:00 iMYoonA wrote:
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On February 09 2012 19:57 Cereb wrote:
How does "bool" sound like "pool" ???


its the way its pronounced, its like their 2nd biggest city is often written busan but pronounced more like poo-san

just reminds me how boring busan is in winter..........


Actually if you could pronounce b and p at the same time, that's what busan would sound like in korean. It's almost exactly in the middle of the two letters.
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2052
On February 09 2012 19:57 Horseballs wrote:
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On February 09 2012 19:55 Witten wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:51 Horseballs wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:50 Witten wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:48 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:45 SolidMustard wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:42 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
[quote]

And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.

of course terrans are convinced mmm is the only way to play tvp. because it is. every pro says so.


And MarineKing is... an amateur?

marineking went for a mech timing attack. it worked because he killed 20 workers. he was far ahead. because of a timing attack
not because of mech
he went mech because u cant tech switch after u went for that kind of timing attack. if he didnt kill 20 workers that game wouldve been REALLY different.
no. mech doesnt work tvp.


I still don't get this arugment. He didn't win because of MECH. He won because of a MECH timing attack!

Because that's not mech apparently.


mech gets worse as the game goes on, the timing attack effectively keeps the game from progressing by resetting the econ of protoss and continuing to grow the econ of terran. Look at the battles, even with an econ disadvantage, Genius did really well in the battles vs hellion/tank.



I mean, isn't that kind of the point? I mean, I guess a comparison would be MMM vs. Mech in TvT. The MMM player attacks and flanks to keep the tank count down so the Mech player never gets enough units to really punish the MMM player, while taking more bases because they have map control until the mech player gets enough tanks which the MMM player is keeping down by being mobile.

I'm not trying to argue mech is better than MMM vs Protoss, just that MKP did it and won with it.


Nobody ever denied that mech could win if you managed to luckily kill 20+ probes early on. In fact, if you were to go through my post history you would see me saying months ago that the only time I would ever win with mech was if I managed to kill a retarded amount of probes early on.


D: You're really quite tiresome to conversate with you know. The reason he was able to "luckily kill 20+ probes" was because he sent his helions in during his timing attack and Genius had to use his warp-ins with his army, so he had no answer to the helions in his mineral line. I heard that's what mech is really good at. Mech vs. mech in TvT usually ends up being "who kills the most retarded amount of workers?", so I don't see why a build that revolves around using a unit that's great for worker line harass should be considered "lucky" when it kills workers. Banshee builds are designed around the banshee killing workers, and if they don't the banshee player is behind. Don't see why mech can't be the same way.

Either way, this conversation doesn't seem to be going anywhere. WP by MKP in both games (well, except when 4 colossus killed every unit he owned ever).

Please everyone, don't turn this into a TvP whine fest, from either side.
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#2053
King of Kong vs the Kong!!
moo...for DRG
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 11:03:56
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2054
On February 09 2012 20:01 Zealot Lord wrote:
Looking at MKP's build on daybreak, seems like it would be quite even with Parting's style yesterday. Because the quick third CC with ghosts can match Partings own quick third and the gateway pressure won't be much of a threat if the emp hits the sentries.


I think Parting's build gets aggressive before the Terran gets ghosts (or at least energy on them)? Need to check timings but MKP wasn't out on the map till 10 mins and ghosts weren't out till a little after and I'm pretty sure Parting was already threatening by then.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2055
That is not weird at all Tasteless. MKP Boss Mode.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2056
People are so critical of Genius's play. I wish I saw how the arm-chair analysts would do when faced with such unconventional builds. SC2 especially at their level is all about refined builds and seeing something you never expected or practiced against can throw even the best off their game.

Even Nestea got tilted towards the end probably because he never expected to get back the lead from the horrible start in his last game vs DRG and played so risky because he had the mentality of clawing back from behind.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2057
On February 09 2012 20:02 Rhedsa wrote:
That crowd! Sooo full :D


And yet it's so tiny compared to MLG x.x Really needs more representation in Korea...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2058
On February 09 2012 20:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:59 icecreamlolz wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:56 icecreamlolz wrote:
OOOOMG TvP still imba!!!111 MC and Parting just got lucky!!!!111

Parting said he actually wants to face Zerg. He claims it's his best MU and he wanted to face DRG in the ro8. If DRG beats marineking he gets his wish

yeah i know. i was just quoting yesterdays LR-thread including all the PvT-imba whine. lets face it: there is no obvious imbalance, its about the players.

Parting just makes it looked imba because he really fucking good >.> How did it take this guy so long to get into Code S. He's seriously kicking tons of ass.



One thing that i have no idea how Parting does is his HT control.

In every PVT, we see ghosts hiting at least a few EMPS and snipes.

Parting managed to avoid all that, plus he made every storm count.
I've got moves like Jagger
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2059
Korean is kind of weird. Compared to English. Romanization is retarded.
You'd have to learn Hangul...
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#2060
On February 09 2012 20:00 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:59 pdd wrote:
Btw, anyone find it odd that Fionn got both predictions correct so far?


Yeah, but Artosis curse never fails. It hit both Nestea and Genius pretty hard.


really?
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