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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 10:28:21
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1381
On February 08 2012 19:27 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:25 MorroW wrote:
just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


But if Jjakji scouted the fast third he could punish him and maybe win the game outright?


I wonder how it would've went if he went for a drop @ the 3rd during the push, which would've made it 2base vs 2base but Terran has a stronger army.
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magicmUnky
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia280 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1382
Haebyung! YES! I like this learn korean thing... :D
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1383
On February 08 2012 19:26 Meteora.GB wrote:
So as far as I'm aware, to defeat this build you need to punish the greedy Protoss for getting a quick third... right?


Or hold without losing much workers, if you have already 1/1 or medivacs you gonnna roll him, toss has nothing but unupgraded GW units against stim / medivacs bio
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1384
lol!! Learn Korean! So cool!

2/2 LB so far !
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1385
Ok bye people, I'll still be semi watching but I'm gonna stop LRing for now~ oo
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 10:28:52
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1386
On February 08 2012 19:24 Drazerk wrote:
No


You know what unit Jjakji could have made and instantly died to that early push?
Hey! How you doin'?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1387
On February 08 2012 19:27 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:25 MorroW wrote:
just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


But if Jjakji scouted the fast third he could punish him and maybe win the game outright?


In order to punish that third he would have to predict it is going to happen and prepare to do so ahead of time. There is no way to decide to punish to it after it gets built.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1388
Hopefully GOM see how much we all like the 'learn korean' segment and keep it ... maybe even expand it!
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1389
On February 08 2012 19:26 Meteora.GB wrote:
So as far as I'm aware, to defeat this build you need to punish the greedy Protoss for getting a quick third... right?


Force fields prevent you from punishing them as well usually.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1390
im pretty sure i wrote a blog about this learn korean stuff...
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1391
Do the guys who do the break-time shows seriouly not know what gomtv did to a barcraft
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 10:29:44
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1392
On February 08 2012 19:25 MorroW wrote:
just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


You have to love balance whiners. First day anyone does this build and already people are crying already. Perhaps wait until the mass of world class Korean Terran's have some time to figure out how to play vs this.

People said the same shit about 1-1-1, Protoss deathball vs Zerg, Mutalisks vs Protoss and countless other stuff and it was all figured out despite a bunch whiners crying imbalance.

Please tell me which other Protoss are successful doing this? A Protoss hasn't won a GSL in 11 months.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 08 2012 10:28 GMT
#1393
Cloaked Banshees.

That is all.
twitch.tv/medrea
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1394
On February 08 2012 19:28 ThaSlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:26 iAmiAnC wrote:
On February 08 2012 19:25 ImHuko wrote:
The protoss 1-1-1, I like


Wish I could hit a 1-1-1 and kill 42 workers + an army whilst also being on 3 bases

Yeah that attack hit around 1-1-1 too

Except it dies horrible to cloaked banshees. The only reason it works (and why Parting does it) is because Jjakji went CC first both times.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1395
On February 08 2012 19:26 Meteora.GB wrote:
So as far as I'm aware, to defeat this build you need to punish the greedy Protoss for getting a quick third... right?

im afraid so, Jjikaji was not getting a fast 3rd after he scouted the building 3rd of protoss (he scouted it in both game before the nexus finished)
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1396
On February 08 2012 19:27 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:25 MorroW wrote:
just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


But if Jjakji scouted the fast third he could punish him and maybe win the game outright?


He did scout the fast third!

BOTH GAMES
@followMVT
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1397
On February 08 2012 19:28 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:27 eYeball wrote:
On February 08 2012 19:25 MorroW wrote:
just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


But if Jjakji scouted the fast third he could punish him and maybe win the game outright?


I wonder how it would've went if he went for a drop @ the 3rd during the push, which would've made it 2base vs 2base but Terran has a stronger army.


Yeah that maybe could work as well. Don't know why people are so butthurt that Jjakji lost, if he had better scouting or maybe patrolling/hiding scv at third coming in at certains timings he would had saw that or a scan w/e.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1398
On February 08 2012 19:27 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:25 MorroW wrote:
just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


But if Jjakji scouted the fast third he could punish him and maybe win the game outright?


How? Terran can't throw down a bunch of gates and manufacture timings in the same way a Toss can. Best thing is probably to take a fast third yourself, but then you have even less chance of holding any push.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1399
Hae-Byung
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1400
On February 08 2012 19:26 TheHova wrote:
A PvP in GSL Code S. Jesus christ. I can't even remember the last PvP i saw.


That's because PvP is almost always completely forgettable.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
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