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On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Exactly my thoughts... Fully upgraded chargelots have ridiculous amounts of HP, armor, damage and can close gaps EASY. Helions are extremely fragile, Terran doesn't have a ton of factories lying around in TvP and will have no ground vehicle weapon/armor upgrades.
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On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them . vs Charge and without upgrades....
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On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them .
not possible vs chargelots...
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While I hate to say this, Jakji lost himself that game. After he destroyed the big Toss army he should immediately have gone to deny Parting's 4th and/or secure his 4th and 5th. He didn't do either properly, allowed Parting too much leeway to build back up, and in the end he payed the price for it.
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On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them .
No, they are terrible. They die stupidly fast, only damage zealots, are way behind in upgrades, and if you are you microing your hellions, everything else is just standing there dying.
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On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them .
Charge.
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On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them .
Once Zealots gets charge, hellions suck against them. That's why they're adding the transformation in HotS.
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On February 08 2012 21:11 Cramsy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them . Charge.
You can still avoid a wrap around.
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I bet jjakji dies to this.
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On February 08 2012 21:11 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them . Once Zealots gets charge, hellions suck against them. That's why they're adding the transformation in HotS.
Exactly
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parting is gonna die if stim finishes and jjakji has more then 4 marauders left
nvm: he finally techs more
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standard TVP on this map, blink doublepronged attack. hope Jjakji prepared for it.
edit: guess not :-(
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On February 08 2012 21:09 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:07 avilo wrote: He trapped and killed parting's entire 200/200 army...still loses...hmmm... Parting also did good damage to Jjakji's army as well has stashing 4 full energy templars at his 4th base and warping in 4 more after this army dies. giving him tons of storms to push Jjajki's army around. The HT control of Parting won him that Jjakji has incredible bio ball control but not much you can do against 16+ storms.
Yes, can you imagine had parting not made the huge mistake of getting his army trapped? He would have had the entire deathball PLUS the templars....HMMM...yet he still won after losing 100% army, TErran has his entire army leftover, but chargelot warpins + templar defense...hmm...
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On February 08 2012 21:10 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:10 raga4ka wrote:On February 08 2012 21:07 -UMADIMSTYLIN- wrote:On February 08 2012 21:06 raga4ka wrote: Maybe pros should try late game blue flame hellions there are good against zealot/HT/Archon army . hellions are quite terrible against zealots Not if you micro them . vs Charge and without upgrades....
Well it can't hurt to mix them in with marauders i think the splash damage is worth it . Marines are useless at that point . He had the gas to make factories at least .The marauders are there to tank damage as hellions burn the zealots .
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On February 08 2012 21:07 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:06 frucisky wrote:On February 08 2012 21:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 21:04 Fionn wrote:On February 08 2012 21:04 Seeker wrote:Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?Yes (141) 97% No (4) 3% If you have time (0) 0% 145 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Best game of 2012 so far. I hope these 2 become a rivalry. I really enjoyed the first bo3 and this second bo3 is starting off great The best game of 2012 will be seen tomorrow I think. Really hope to see MKP vs DRG. So stoked for that The group tomorrow is absolutely insane. The fact that 2 of those will be going to Code A just completely blows my mind.. Hoping Genius and DRG are going through, i wanna see more of the dynamic duo :p
if DRG wins his group he'll be on the opposite side of the bracket from MMA.
I'm rooting for the rematch. ^.-
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Dat scv scouts it all, jjakji is such a boss.
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