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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 07 2012 05:45 Titorelli wrote: Why there are so few viewers? Great players playing for a Code A spot and people prefer to watch "normal" pro-streams? I dont get it Casters have a lot to do with stream numbers, I don't even know who these guys are to be honest. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On February 07 2012 05:45 Titorelli wrote: Why there are so few viewers? Great players playing for a Code A spot and people prefer to watch "normal" pro-streams? I dont get it First day of the competition existing, very little hype before it started it just basically... appeared. Emergency casters and not more "recognised" names. Broadcasting in a prime EU time slot and of five potential games involving EU players they only show one. Dimaga is pretty boss. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On February 07 2012 05:49 mvtaylor wrote: First day of the competition existing, very little hype before it started it just basically... appeared. Emergency casters and not more "recognised" name Broadcasting in a prime EU time slot and of five potential games involving EU players they only show one. Dimaga is pretty boss. IPL rebroadcast and KSLs not involving european players usually got ~4k viewers, so I suppose that time and partecipants are not really a problem here. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 07 2012 05:58 WigglingSquid wrote: IPL rebroadcast and KSLs not involving european players usually got ~4k viewers, so I suppose that time and partecipants are not really a problem here. Really it just comes down to who is casting the event, compare KSL with Khaldor casting to when he does not cast. It's 7-8k viewers to 2k or so. Let's face it casters are the biggest stars of SC2 right now and viewer numbers mostly depend on them. Apollo + TLO casting the Scan invitational got near 30k viewers and that was a one day tournament with EU players. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On February 07 2012 05:58 WigglingSquid wrote: IPL rebroadcast and KSLs not involving european players usually got ~4k viewers, so I suppose that time and partecipants are not really a problem here. To expand on my first two points First day of the competition existing, very little hype before it started it just basically... appeared. Emergency casters and not more "recognised" names. These really are major points, if it's the first day of your tournament existing and broadcasting you want it announced a while in advance. SXSW Show Match is announced like two months in advance, Iron Squid a month in advance. ESW make a LR thread 30 minutes before their stream goes up and a reddit post three hours before it starts, I did a quick TL search to see a post three days ago about week #1 (not about the tournament in general) that gets less than a page of comments. And a search by title and content reveals a TL staff member posting a translation from a korean website about the league a week ago with info edited in after Virgil said some more about it. Finally, when Day 1 of your tournament starts up you want your prime casters ready to go on week 1, day 1. I know Bitterdam are off getting ready for IEM Sao Paulo so in this case for day 1 you want to make sure 100% that it's going to be casted by TB + Apollo. I hope this tournament goes well and all, and I'm sure it will. But day 1 should have been explosions and fireworks, trumpets and fanfare not, oh look there's some new online cup starting. EDIT: I moaned a bit about prize money earlier and by reading to the bottom of the twitch.tv blog (http://blog.twitch.tv/2012/02/06/gomtv-and-twitchtv-partner-with-the-ewm/) which was linked on r/starcraft but is now no longer even on the first page and also seems to be very poorly written / mis translated I find: Weekly - $100 prize money Finals : 8 Player offline tournement from past weekly match winners - Winner receives Code A certified spot. - $500 prize money When I check the LR thread and relevant liquipedia article I generally expect to find all the info there. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On February 07 2012 06:02 mvtaylor wrote: To expand on my first two points First day of the competition existing, very little hype before it started it just basically... appeared. Emergency casters and not more "recognised" names. These really are major points, if it's the first day of your tournament existing and broadcasting you want it announced a while in advance. SXSW Show Match is announced like two months in advance, Iron Squid a month in advance. ESW make a LR thread 30 minutes before their stream goes up and a reddit post three hours before it starts, I did a quick TL search to see a post three days ago about week #1 (not about the tournament in general) that gets less than a page of comments. And a search by title and content reveals a TL staff member posting a translation from a korean website about the league a week ago with info edited in after Virgil said some more about it. Finally, when Day 1 of your tournament starts up you want your prime casters ready to go on week 1, day 1. I know Bitterdam are off getting ready for IEM Sao Paulo so in this case for day 1 you want to make sure 100% that it's going to be casted by TB + Apollo. I hope this tournament goes well and all, and I'm sure it will. But day 1 should have been explosions and fireworks, trumpets and fanfare not, oh look there's some new online cup starting. I don't currently have time to go into detail about what happened with the casting situation, but both pairs of casters are currently otherwise engaged. That announcement that was made had some information in it that wasn't confirmed yet, and on top of that, the casters we did have for this week were not here on time. I had planned (and written) a nice fancy announcement post, but someone got there before I could, and things went downhill from there. Luckily we were able to sort everything out this afternoon fairly quickly, so big thanks to Katu and the SCVRush guys for being available on such short notice. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
I'm nitpicking though. More importantly, is there any way to get an expected list of games for the day? In order, preferably. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On February 07 2012 06:16 JonnyLaw wrote: Virgil you've done a great job holding this together. This casting duo is okay. Could work on game knowledge a bit instead of just talking about what buildings and units are being built I'm nitpicking though. More importantly, is there any way to get an expected list of games for the day? In order, preferably. Today, because of all the chaos at the beginning, I didn't have time to arrange a schedule, so I just packaged up half of the Ro64 replays, and we've just been going through them. In the future we'll have a list of the series in order. After this one we're going to cast the SaSe vs Dream games though. On February 07 2012 06:18 Dodgin wrote: Did Cutter advance? I missed game 3 and both the OP and liquipedia are not updated. For an update on the Cutter games: I did not receive a replay from Cutter vs NalZa Game 3 and have been informed that Cutter was unable to play the 3rd game as was forced to forfeit the series to NalZa. NalZa advances 2:1. | ||
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On February 07 2012 06:21 VirgilSC2 wrote: After this one we're going to cast the SaSe vs Dream games though. Thanks man. That's the series I really want to see. Long day and I'm fading fast but I cannot miss that series. While you're taking questions Virgil, how will vods be done for this tournament in general? Is someone condensing them into a ewm channel or just using the respective twitch accounts for the casting teams? | ||
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Titorelli
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
 He was probably busy preparing for his GSTL match... + Show Spoiler + by pumping iron. | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
On February 07 2012 06:29 Titorelli wrote: I dunno if its all about the casters. The ESV events always have some 4-5k viewers and their casters are imo also not very well known... ESV has been around for about 8 months though. They struggled early to get viewers but, its grown steadily since then. Noblesse, comon man he was on hive tech for sooo long and no ghosts | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 07 2012 06:29 Titorelli wrote: I dunno if its all about the casters. The ESV events always have some 4-5k viewers and their casters are imo also not very well known... Yes but Orb actually has very good game knowledge and really likes to analyze the play rather than try to be funny. There's a big difference. | ||
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