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On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe
+1. Why give Illusion more confident going into the next match. At least try your hardest.
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On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe
He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly and idra just getting his 4'th when his terran opponent had been on a 4'th like forever.
Let alone him making 3 more CC's. If idra came back it would be because zerg is OP (which their not) or he is hacking (which he's not) 
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On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe
Even THIS argument is silly, 200 200 antiga you don't win, and you don't get "tired" playing starcraft.
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On February 01 2012 10:45 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe Even THIS argument is silly, 200 200 antiga you don't win, and you don't get "tired" playing starcraft.
It's a good thing all those pro teams have you to set them straight, chief.
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Idra truly "loves the game"...
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On February 01 2012 10:43 turamn wrote:
No, Alex Garflied needs to cut his sorry ass, or force him to take a pay cut. He's not worth what he's making.
How do you know what Idra is worth to the team or how much he makes? You must know EGs management, thanks for giving us this inside information.
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On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly and idra just getting his 4'th when his terran opponent had been on a 4'th like forever. Let alone him making 3 more CC's. If idra came back it would be because zerg is OP (which their not) or he is hacking (which he's not)
If he's going to turtle IdrA would have had time to bank resources and tech switch to Blords right away after getting rid of Ultras.
Saying he had no chance is pure ignorance.
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On February 01 2012 10:45 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe Even THIS argument is silly, 200 200 antiga you don't win, and you don't get "tired" playing starcraft.
Lol, now that is bullshit. Of course you get tired. Watching LOTR extended series back-to-back makes you tired, and you're not even playing.
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Yes, that is an extreme example, and no, Illusion has not played for that long, but doing anything without much pause makes you not as sharp. Especially in a tournament setting, where you are 100% alert not so relaxed while laddering.
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idra cant beat p cuz apparently p is op. cant beat t or z either. whats up.
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On February 01 2012 10:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Idra truly "loves the game"...
He's already pretty much stated it's bad lol
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On February 01 2012 10:43 turamn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:39 jdsarge wrote:
O_O Alex Garfield needs to give him another talk. No, Alex Garflied needs to cut his sorry ass, or force him to take a pay cut. He's not worth what he's making.
You know what he makes? Indulge us, please.
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On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly.
Actually I think I saw a dimaga vs empireHappy with Happy going for tank/ghost, and dimaga still going ultra and win (after a 1h++ game :D).
But obviously you want to have zerling/baneling (maybe more than ultras) with it, and engage properly the ennemy army. Not sure Irda is capable of that :D.
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On February 01 2012 10:47 SC2NeCro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly and idra just getting his 4'th when his terran opponent had been on a 4'th like forever. Let alone him making 3 more CC's. If idra came back it would be because zerg is OP (which their not) or he is hacking (which he's not) If he's going to turtle IdrA would have had time to bank resources and tech switch to Blords right away after getting rid of Ultras. Saying he had no chance is pure ignorance.
I guess you don't realize how good ghosts are vs broodlords and ultra's. The fact you don't know what you are talking about shows when you think broodlords (with his limited 3 base gas after having a ton of ultra's out so he would have had 5 broodlords maybe) that you don't know zvt late game very well especially vs a terran of illusions caliber.
On February 01 2012 10:48 kubiks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly. Actually I think I saw a dimaga vs empireHappy with Happy going for tank/ghost, and dimaga still going ultra and win (after a 1h++ game :D). But obviously you want to have zerling/baneling (maybe more than ultras) with it, and engage properly the ennemy army. Not sure Irda is capable of that :D.
I imagine if Dimaga won that he also wasn't down bases for the whole game am I correct in that? Also yeah you need banelings imo but if the game was an hour long pretty sure dimaga wasn't down bases different situation then what idra was in
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EG has no chance with ForGG, Supernova, Nada and Inca for JP
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On February 01 2012 10:43 turamn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:39 jdsarge wrote:
O_O Alex Garfield needs to give him another talk. No, Alex Garflied needs to cut his sorry ass, or force him to take a pay cut. He's not worth what he's making.
I'd be wholeheartedly surprised if you knew what Greg made.
He was extremely far behind after the banshee play. He slugged it out and clawed his way back into the game food wise as the game went on, but in the late game he was getting picked apart by drops. There was no chance of IdrA coming out ahead in a direct engagement in that game, and he didn't have a big "play making" army. What magic are you going to make happen with ling, infestor, ultralisk when Terran is chopping up a map with planetary fortresses?
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On February 01 2012 10:49 zefreak wrote:
EG has no chance with ForGG, Supernova, Nada and Inca for JP
why use inca against JYP? JYP has pretty good vP, whereas any terran on oGs will rape his face.
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On February 01 2012 10:45 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:43 turamn wrote:On February 01 2012 10:39 jdsarge wrote:
O_O Alex Garfield needs to give him another talk. No, Alex Garflied needs to cut his sorry ass, or force him to take a pay cut. He's not worth what he's making. Players don't get paid to win, they get paid to have fans. USA has the most fans, IdrA is the "USA player". He's worth the pay.
LOL, WHAT!? You don't get paid to do your job? I don't understand this at all. A professional sports player doesn't get paid to have fans, he gets played to perform. Sure, if you generate publicity for your team, it's a bonus, but I assure you, 90% of signings aren't because they want publicity.
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On February 01 2012 10:45 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe Even THIS argument is silly, 200 200 antiga you don't win, and you don't get "tired" playing starcraft.
You don't get physically tired, but mentally tired is real shit. Being under a high pressure situation game after game does fuck people up. It's a legitimate strategy and people did it and continue to do it in BW because it's better than giving the opponent an early victory. You try to get EVERY SINGLE ADVANTAGE you can at the highest level of play. That includes making your opponent play 5-10-15 extra minutes, especially in a Winner's League format.
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On February 01 2012 10:47 SC2NeCro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly and idra just getting his 4'th when his terran opponent had been on a 4'th like forever. Let alone him making 3 more CC's. If idra came back it would be because zerg is OP (which their not) or he is hacking (which he's not) If he's going to turtle IdrA would have had time to bank resources and tech switch to Blords right away after getting rid of Ultras. Saying he had no chance is pure ignorance.
Eh, the Idra defenders, if they actually believe what they're saying...Well, they must be terrible people in real life. I mean, those excuses are so lame...
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On February 01 2012 10:49 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:47 SC2NeCro wrote:On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly and idra just getting his 4'th when his terran opponent had been on a 4'th like forever. Let alone him making 3 more CC's. If idra came back it would be because zerg is OP (which their not) or he is hacking (which he's not) If he's going to turtle IdrA would have had time to bank resources and tech switch to Blords right away after getting rid of Ultras. Saying he had no chance is pure ignorance. I guess you don't realize how good ghosts are vs broodlords and ultra's. The fact you don't know what you are talking about shows when you think broodlords (with his limited 3 base gas after having a ton of ultra's out so he would have had 5 broodlords maybe) that you don't know zvt late game very well especially vs a terran of illusions caliber. Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 10:48 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:On February 01 2012 10:40 blade55555 wrote:
lol I love people who go "omg rage LOL such bad gg timing" game was over. Drop in his main was going to rape his shit (he had 3 lings to defend and his whole army was on the other side of the map). He can't engage because PF + ghosts + 20 tanks + marines. Game was over lol don't know why idra went that ling/infestor style illusion kinda just countered it perfectly, abusing it with drops, etc. It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly. Actually I think I saw a dimaga vs empireHappy with Happy going for tank/ghost, and dimaga still going ultra and win (after a 1h++ game :D). But obviously you want to have zerling/baneling (maybe more than ultras) with it, and engage properly the ennemy army. Not sure Irda is capable of that :D. I imagine if Dimaga won that he also wasn't down bases for the whole game am I correct in that?
IdrA had already secured a 4th by the time he GG'd. Broodlords are THE end game unit vs Terran. That's why you have Queen+Infestor support which he already had, it would have been a proper switch.
You are ignorant and clueless. You need to stop talking now.
I am NOT defending IdrA.
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