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On January 27 2012 20:34 Vindicare605 wrote:Ramps and chokes. You can't use Ultras in that situation. If he had positioned differently and gone up the front instead of walked around to the planetary the whole thing would have looked MUCH Different.
Except there was a ton of bunkers and siege tanks at the middle MMA had constructed his best beat was probably to go around to MMA's 3rd and destroy the rocks.
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On January 27 2012 20:35 Bayyne wrote:
People bash Ultras because they expect them to be a godlike unit, when it's not. It has 1 purpose: to clear forcefields.
2 uses. BM :D
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On January 27 2012 20:35 LunaSaint wrote:
Oh god dammit I have to go to a lecture in 5 minutes and it's Leenock vs MMA :[
I have 25 mintues left before mine, hope I can atleast see all of this game 
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On January 27 2012 20:33 Bart Hurt wrote:ultras ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NypHd.gif)
yeah ultras are so bad we cant faceroll with them
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He went full ultra. Never go full ultra.
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The HQ doesnt work for me, "make sure you are connected to the internet..." the other streams work fine. Anyone know a solution?
Thanks
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How the hell is this caster going to say 'in a way this game will determine the outcome of the series, these are their best players' ??? why is this guy casting gstl? What makes GSTL so good is the people who we DONT KNOW that come out with huge upsets/all kills etc. Sure leenock n mma is exciting, but come on dude. even downplaying oz like he couldn't follow up leenock and bring a win home. it's 3-3. is it really that far fetched
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On January 27 2012 20:35 Bayyne wrote:
People bash Ultras because they expect them to be a godlike unit, when it's not. It has 1 purpose: to clear forcefields.
I wish PFs could be crushed by massive units then! :D
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On January 27 2012 20:34 lbmaian wrote:
MMA played well, but I think that was mostly a build order win and scouting fail. MMA didn't split his forces correctly in the mid-game leading to all those lost tanks, and then MMA "came back" with his trademark multitasking. Come to think of it, that's really why MMA is the comeback king.
Pretty much. It's actually not a good idea to model your TvZ off MMA's if you don't have ridiculous multitasking skills to manage your economy, drops, and pushes all at the same time. MVP's TvZ is much more solid and based on good positioning until he can macro up a deathball and transition into ghosts.
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after leenock FXo have ASD, OZ and gumiho
slayers have ryung taeja and yu gi oh.
wouldnt be surprised if
MMA>leenock
Oz>MMA
Oz> taeja
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On January 27 2012 20:32 Bayyne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. You were saying?
Doesn't mean it was a good choice. MMA's TvZ is much better than his TvP, in fact he's probably the best TvZ in the world right now. Oz has also beaten MMA in code S before whereas MMA has a pretty impressive 4-2 record against Leenock.
On January 27 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. who's going to snipe oz at the end though?
That's the point, there isn't an obvious sniper for Oz. That's why he would have been a good choice.
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The reason he lost was the map, not the units. That map is almost free win for terran, idk why its still in gsl.
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It's getting ridiculous how all the zerg players only blame the map and ultras again. Lucky threw the game away.
Was kinda the same like a terran player move-commanding all his marines into banelings.
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Lucky didn't engage right obviously, ultras are very positioning dependent, I would have liked to see a flank from each side of the ramp, would have been more successful than walking around, the way he engaged was the worst possible way, because all the tanks shelling down from the high ground that he had no way to reach.
Ultras used in the proper position are incredibly powerful.
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On January 27 2012 20:36 Arc1 wrote:
He went full ultra. Never go full ultra.
lol, +1
I hope Lucky learned his lesson about Ultras though.
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On January 27 2012 20:35 Pipeline wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:32 xongnox wrote:On January 27 2012 20:30 Kireak wrote:
standard. ultras into losing the whole freaking game.
Cant ever seem to get a good engagement with them bastards. maybe see Stephano or DRG ? Stephano and DRG both struggle against terran late game on Antiga. I think most macro zergs are. The map is designed to funnel everything into the centre. If you dont kill the terran early or hold control over the centre you will not have enough gas as zerg to kill a terran on 3 bases.
DRG has said in the past that Antiga is a bullshit map ZvT because of how easy terran's get an uncontested 3rd.
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On January 27 2012 20:34 Ryncol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On January 27 2012 20:32 Bayyne wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. You were saying? Terrible decision by Choya. If anybody is going to kill Leenock it'll be MMA. Agreed.
Well u have to remember Leenock is their best player and throwing lesser players at MMA would just be feeding Slayers some wins, puting leenock now gives a little breathing room IF he loses, and leenock is pretty damn good at zvt
I think its gonna be a cool epic match, unless somone cheeses....
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