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On January 27 2012 20:36 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:32 Bayyne wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. You were saying? Doesn't mean it was a good choice. MMA's TvZ is much better than his TvP, in fact he's probably the best TvZ in the world right now. Oz has also beaten MMA in code S before whereas MMA has a pretty impressive 4-2 record against Leenock. Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. who's going to snipe oz at the end though? That's the point, there isn't an obvious sniper for Oz. That's why he would have been a good choice.
This is why I think it's good to send leenock first: I'd rather have Oz playing against MMA in a do or die situation than Leenock.
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Seraphone wrote:
I agree with everyone else. Should have used Oz first.
What I think is likely is that Leenock volunteered because he wanted a chance at MMA.
Leenock knows how good his TvZ is and he wants to prove himself against the only one of the top Terran TvZ's he hasn't beaten yet.
He'll get his chance for a rematch against Jjajki this season too.
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Archybaldie wrote:
i'm kinda curious how that battle would have played out if the ultra's were split into 3 groups and sent up the different ramps that were accessable.
Not sure if it would have been any better or any worse ... but id like to know lol
Mass lings + Ultra drops would've definetely done much better, mma didn't have enough marines to kill the overlords in time.
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Archybaldie wrote:
i'm kinda curious how that battle would have played out if the ultra's were split into 3 groups and sent up the different ramps that were accessable.
Not sure if it would have been any better or any worse ... but id like to know lol
You will see better result than what Lucky did. There's no place that is worse to engage than where Luck used. lol
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Bagi wrote:
Isn't this ultra bashing getting a little ridiculous? Its not like people went "holy shit marine/tank sucks balls" when Clide got owned by Lucky. Whenever someone builds ultras and doesn't win, people go apeshit.
He attacked into a bad position, that's all there is to it.
Except for the fact that marine/tank actually works.
Ultras is the same reason no protoss ever uses carriers. They're useless
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HQ is back up for anyone wondering.
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:37 elwoodng wrote:On January 27 2012 20:34 Ryncol wrote:On January 27 2012 20:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On January 27 2012 20:32 Bayyne wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. You were saying? Terrible decision by Choya. If anybody is going to kill Leenock it'll be MMA. Agreed. Maybe Leenock has a specialized build for MMA or Oz has been crushing everybody in practice. Not saying that is the case for sure or that I agree with Choya but it's a possibility. Oz also plays MMA next in code S. They might be hoping to keep oz from having to play mma now to keep his strats secret
Good point I didn't think of that. But they must have known that they would need to use Oz at some point against SlayerS... To be honest, the score should be 4-2 right now for SlayerS if they didn't send out Clide against a zerg.
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:37 elwoodng wrote:On January 27 2012 20:34 Ryncol wrote:On January 27 2012 20:34 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On January 27 2012 20:32 Bayyne wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Greggle wrote:On January 27 2012 20:31 Bayyne wrote:
I'd leave Oz till the end, MMA's TvZ > his TvP. That's why you use Oz now, rather than waste Leenock. You were saying? Terrible decision by Choya. If anybody is going to kill Leenock it'll be MMA. Agreed. Maybe Leenock has a specialized build for MMA or Oz has been crushing everybody in practice. Not saying that is the case for sure or that I agree with Choya but it's a possibility. Oz also plays MMA next in code S. They might be hoping to keep oz from having to play mma now to keep his strats secret
You think it's worth it? It seems kind of risky to risk falling out of the GSTL when Oz could still advance even if he somehow doesn't beat MMA in the ro16. And I think that he'd probably be able to do it anyway.
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On January 27 2012 20:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:38 Bagi wrote:
Isn't this ultra bashing getting a little ridiculous? Its not like people went "holy shit marine/tank sucks balls" when Clide got owned by Lucky. Whenever someone builds ultras and doesn't win, people go apeshit.
He attacked into a bad position, that's all there is to it. Except for the fact that marine/tank actually works. Ultras is the same reason no protoss ever uses carriers. They're useless
Ask Leenock and DRG how to use it.
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On January 27 2012 20:39 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:38 Seraphone wrote:
I agree with everyone else. Should have used Oz first. What I think is likely is that Leenock volunteered because he wanted a chance at MMA. Leenock knows how good his TvZ is and he wants to prove himself against the only one of the top Terran TvZ's he hasn't beaten yet. He'll get his chance for a rematch against Jjajki this season too.
He beat MMA at MLG Providence iirc.
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They might want to fire the person who's in charge for the music selection...
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On January 27 2012 20:37 Seeker wrote:
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haha, anyway you have 6666 posts soon 
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Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
MMA DO IT SON!!! DOOOOO ITTTT!!!!
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Somehow antiga remembers me of Jungle Basin.
When Terran siege in the center of the map, Zerg has a hard time do attack directly, the diference is that Antiga has more options to expand.
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On January 27 2012 20:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:38 Bagi wrote:
Isn't this ultra bashing getting a little ridiculous? Its not like people went "holy shit marine/tank sucks balls" when Clide got owned by Lucky. Whenever someone builds ultras and doesn't win, people go apeshit.
He attacked into a bad position, that's all there is to it. Except for the fact that marine/tank actually works. Ultras is the same reason no protoss ever uses carriers. They're useless
Pretty sure I've seen Stephano and DRG as well as Nestea absolutely dominate Terrans using Ultralisks.
Zergs that whine about Ultras just like to forget how dominant they can be if used right.
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On January 27 2012 20:38 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:36 jjhchsc2 wrote:
after leenock FXo have ASD, OZ and gumiho
slayers have ryung taeja and yu gi oh.
wouldnt be surprised if
MMA>leenock
Oz>MMA
Oz> taeja Taeja is not there.
Get Boxer to Code S with a heroic performance.
Don't get invited to the GSTL (despite your all kills before)
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Isn't this ultra bashing getting a little ridiculous? Its not like people went "holy shit marine/tank sucks balls" when Clide got owned by Lucky. Whenever someone builds ultras and doesn't win, people go apeshit.
He attacked into a bad position, that's all there is to it.
I agreed that he engage into a bad position. And I agree that Ultras when used well in good spots are fairly decent. I think the knock against Ultras is that there aren't that many positions which they are good and many at which they are bad...
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On January 27 2012 20:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 20:38 Bagi wrote:
Isn't this ultra bashing getting a little ridiculous? Its not like people went "holy shit marine/tank sucks balls" when Clide got owned by Lucky. Whenever someone builds ultras and doesn't win, people go apeshit.
He attacked into a bad position, that's all there is to it. Except for the fact that marine/tank actually works. Ultras is the same reason no protoss ever uses carriers. They're useless
Sweeping statement. Stephano/DRG would like to have a word with you.
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On January 27 2012 20:40 HolydaKing wrote:haha, anyway you have 6666 posts soon
As long as it's not 66* I'm cool with it
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