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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
January 11 2012 12:24 GMT
#4161
On January 11 2012 21:24 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 21:21 ChaosTerran wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:19 Roe wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:17 ChaosTerran wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:15 Roe wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:12 ChaosTerran wrote:
and this is why terran needs ghosts to beat broodlords, corrupters just dont die to vikings, its an uneven battle even if you have superior numbers as terran.

ghosts won't do anything since he had mass overseers. you would waste so much energy sniping them you wouldnt have anything left for broods, let alone infestors. then you have cloak constantly draining energy as well. the only answer is mass viking+mass raven.


No, the only answer is mass ghosts, because they outrange infestors and broodlords. viking/raven just gets fungaled to death and theres not much you can do.

well then you've got too many ghosts to kill an actual ground army, not to mention your ghosts would be useless against infesto/brood because they wouldnt have any energy


what are you talking about? ghosts are probably the best unit in the game, they counter every ground unit and every air unit, the only exception is probably mass baneling and mass roach, everything else gets utterly destroyed by ghosts. and they dont have energy? why not?

snipes on overseers, cloak. i already said this ^.^


dont snipe the overseers. just emp the infestors and snipe the broodlords.
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 12:27:39
January 11 2012 12:24 GMT
#4162
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4163
Those red ties are ridiculous hahahaa
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4164
On January 11 2012 21:13 Sub40APM wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:11 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:52 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:48 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:45 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:43 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:39 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:37 karpo wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:36 gullberg wrote:
Sen and Idra smacked in the first round. No need to waste invites :p


Yeah seeding foreigners seem like a total flop now.


Might want to look at Chae's interview, its going to stay and the reasoning is sound.


In fact, Chae says in the interview that they might invite players that the sponsors want. Oh yeah, isnt that just lovely.


Which is important, and additionally he wants the league to be "Global". Might want to take the Football WorldCup example into perspective, instead of just looking at the reason you want to hate on and be sarcastic about.


Oh so the world cup invites countrys the sponsors want? No, perhaps you have heard about world cup qualifiers?

Of course world cup favors 'popular' choices over actually skill. They just do it more subtly, by rationing out seeds.

Does the Asian Football federation really need 4.5 slots to qualify for the World Cup? Does "Oceania" need any slots at all? Why does Concacaf have more than 2 slots when the only relevant countries are Mexico and the USA? Why doesnt Africa, Europe and South America get more?


Maybe you are not aware of the fact that new zeeland, who qualified through oceania, didnt lose a single match in their grp in WC 2010. They came third, ahead of Italy. It seems that you dont know much about football so i dont know why you make these comparisons. But your point is that oceania gets 1 spot in the world cup because of popularity? haha :D
yea. playing a bunch of boring draws in the most boring group ever. something to be proud of. South Korea also went to the last 4 in the World Cup once, that proves that Asia needs 4 slots right?


It is the WORLD cup and as such different parts of the world are represented. That doesnt mean that some dude sits in his office and picks his favourite from each continent. They still have to qualify and by doing so lots of underdogs have a chance to create history for their country and develop football in their region. Their is a process and its transparent, even if alot of other shit going on in FIFA is corrupt etc. Why cant GOM atleast pick a few candidates and hold a mini tournament where the winner/winners get the seed. Dunno why you think the best way is to have someone, behind closed doors, pick someone for whatever reason they want.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4165
On January 11 2012 21:19 iamthedave wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:16 TheDwf wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:14 Salteador Neo wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:12 Napoleon53 wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:10 forsooth wrote:
I knew vikings were bad against corrupters, but I didn't know they were that bad.


I think there are some factors to consider.

1) Fungal growth.. Sometimes 1-2 on all during the battles.
2) upgrades. I think Zerg was ahead in the air upgrades.
3) 4 queens also did some damage.

Normally I think Vikings is pretty cost-effective against corruptors.


There's nothing to "think". Vikings counter corruptors and are very good against them. IMO forsooth was either trolling or QQing.

No. Just because they have a damage bonus against Armored units does not make them a “counter”.


Actually it does. They're also considerably cheaper. What caused MVP to lose that was fungals, not the mass corruptors

Vikings are not considerably cheaper. They cost 150/75 compared to 150/100. Corrupters have significantly higher health as well as a higher rate of fire, and a faster movement speed that mitigates the ability of vikings to kite. Vikings do not counter corruptors.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4166
On January 11 2012 21:24 Nocteo wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:23 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:21 y0su wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:20 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:20 ChaosTerran wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:19 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:18 herbie wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:12 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:12 jeeneeus wrote:
I feel like the only unit you can make against that composition is mass ghost, but it would be so hard to get that much gas when you're meching.


Mass raven would of also worked but required more skill to pull off

And mass raven doesn't take a lot of gas...
Also HSM speed is 2.953 , corrupters speed is 2.953 , corrupters can just outrun HSMs....


PDD?

pdd cant stop fungals....


The seeker missiles will though

fungal range > hsm


Stop trying to disprove how awesome ravens are >.>

You can't fungal multiple ravens from multiple angles!

He fungled all vikings in a 180 degree spread.


Not a full 360 spread
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 12:25:57
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4167
Back to game 1.
I think one ghost+cloak and 1 NUKE would be enough. Its not like spines could run away
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4168
Daybreak?

:|
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4169
Game Three on daybreak

In the bottom left is Lucky

In the top right is MVP
Tribuno
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy261 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4170
i lost the last part of game 1.. lucky had 2 spine and stop.. how did he win that?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
January 11 2012 12:25 GMT
#4171
Surprised he chose daybreak and not dual sight...
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4172
ONE MORE GAME MVP!!! ONE MORE GAMEEEEE!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4173
On January 11 2012 21:23 Theeakoz wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:21 maxmap wrote:
[image loading]

Lucky's Moving Castle

lol

This is soo awesome <3 I can stare at this for minutes...


Haha I didn't notice the Spine Crawler at first but that is HILARIOUS
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4174
On January 11 2012 21:24 herbie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 21:23 TheDwf wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:19 iamthedave wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:16 TheDwf wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:14 Salteador Neo wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:12 Napoleon53 wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:10 forsooth wrote:
I knew vikings were bad against corrupters, but I didn't know they were that bad.


I think there are some factors to consider.

1) Fungal growth.. Sometimes 1-2 on all during the battles.
2) upgrades. I think Zerg was ahead in the air upgrades.
3) 4 queens also did some damage.

Normally I think Vikings is pretty cost-effective against corruptors.


There's nothing to "think". Vikings counter corruptors and are very good against them. IMO forsooth was either trolling or QQing.

No. Just because they have a damage bonus against Armored units does not make them a “counter”.


Actually it does. They're also considerably cheaper. What caused MVP to lose that was fungals, not the mass corruptors

150/75 for a Viking, 150/100 for a Corruptor, this is what you call “considerably cheaper”?

but corrupter's easily win vs vikings 1v1, test it if you wish..



Maybe without micro... don't you remember MMA vs DRG? in smaller numbers with similar upgrades corruptors are easily kited with the Vikings insane range.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4175
On January 11 2012 21:25 Frankon wrote:
Back to game 1.
I think one ghost+cloak and 1 NUKE would be enough.


Right because the zerg wouldn't move his army. Or fungal the ghost. Or see it with his overseer.
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4176
Second map that MvP wins due to questionable map design imho. The cutthroat corner bunker position in his first series vs Lucky, and the unkillable tank platform if you don't have mutas... I don't know what to say.
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4177
Always liked this music :3
ffxiv enjoyer
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4178
Gogogo Lucky!!!
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4179
On January 11 2012 21:25 Tribuno wrote:
i lost the last part of game 1.. lucky had 2 spine and stop.. how did he win that?


By keeping those spines alive and having a better army.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#4180
On January 11 2012 21:25 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three on daybreak

In the bottom left is Lucky

In the top right is MVP


2:10


Hatch first for Lucky
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