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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
January 15 2012 15:41 GMT
#1921
Grubby deserved to lose that for his poor reading of the game. When your ahead of zerg, keep forcing zerg to build units, not let him have his own time to drone + build up his late game army while u mass stalkers....
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1922
stephano just looks to good, guess he will win this.
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1923
On January 16 2012 00:40 KalWarkov wrote:
balance ftw.


You said you quit watching the match after game 2, why still here?
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1924
On January 16 2012 00:39 NrGmonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:38 haffy wrote:
I don't get why you would go carriers over voidrays. Is there anything carriers are better at than voidrays? Except maybe pure hydra or something stupid.

Voidrays are much much worse versus infestors.


But much worse against corruptors, which are easier to remax on, don't relay on energy and more mobile. Also voidrays do extra damage to corruptors and broodlord.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1925
next balance patch i feel will address either fungal growth again or infested terran DPS
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 15:43:04
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1926
On January 16 2012 00:40 KalWarkov wrote:
balance ftw.


dont make balance excuses for grubby being the worse player. if you ever watched stephano playing against top korean protosses with this playstyle you'd see that they dont have any trouble dealing with it. its just that grubby's lategame management/harass/army micro is not that good.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1927
5 carriers, not enough. I think 10+ and several void rays would destroy that army, which is what he should have done. He was floating over 5k-5k and only made 4 stargates, should have made 10.
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1928
On January 16 2012 00:39 Seraphone wrote:
Sigh Grubby. If only he just went and won the game 20 minutes ago.


He couldn't. He didnt have the bank/production to suicide into spincrawlers and infestors.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1929
On January 16 2012 00:39 Tarotis wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:38 haffy wrote:
I don't get why you would go carriers over voidrays. Is there anything carriers are better at than voidrays? Except maybe pure hydra or something stupid.

Dying


Carriers are also less susceptible to fungal growth. They clump up less easily.
Grubby should have continued to sacrifice little pieces of his stalker force and cheese out a critical amount of carriers, while praying that Stephano doesn't notice.
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1930
Shame carriers are about as useful in combat as changelings >_<
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1931
Ret's ZvZ is not good enough. When you never lose to Nerchio in ZvZ, you never gonna lose to Ret in ZvZ.

Thorzain.. meh i don't know.. Thorzain admit himself he's not as good as Stephano.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1359 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1932
Grubby never did a single feed back vs these mass infestors why ?
YipCraft
Profile Joined July 2011
United States216 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1933
Sigh why do people not make HT? =/ They are soooooooooo good.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 15:42:59
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1934
I don't understand how Stephano does it?! I've been using this guy for inspiration and the play never works this well for me

I would have fallen to surprise carriers, absolutely ! :p
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1935
On January 16 2012 00:41 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:38 haffy wrote:
I don't get why you would go carriers over voidrays. Is there anything carriers are better at than voidrays? Except maybe pure hydra or something stupid.

Infestors can deal with Voidrays (range 6), but not so much with Carriers (range 8, more hit points). You need Templar support, though, and for some reason Grubby had not this in last fights.


air upgrades and carriers cost 0 gas.

how stupid is that that protoss needs 2 more bases now to even fight lategame Zerg, when Zerg is the race that can expand all over the map the easiest?
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1936
On January 16 2012 00:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
...hopefully all those actually said Carriers were good against this will shut up now...

It's because you're supposed to have Templar support with them. And not throw away your Mothership against nothing but Infested Terrans...
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1937
Why are you guys balance whining? Grubby gave that game away so hard I can't believe how you guys can not see that? He was 200 supply when stephano was around 130 with hive on the way, he should have just killed him then. Yes i know stephano had a lot of spines and infestors, but with 70 supply lead he could almost have 1a'd that...
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1938
On January 16 2012 00:41 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:40 Olinimm wrote:
Grubby could've just blinked in and used his colossus to kill stephanos third when he just had some infestors and lings and he had a 70 supply advantage...i mean why?


mass infestors + spines + afraid to make a mistake and lose

Dude, he had a 70 supply lead with blink and colossi. :/ There was no way he would've lost if he attacked the third.
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
January 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#1939
stephano makes me a sad zealot...
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
January 15 2012 15:43 GMT
#1940
I still think committing mass resources to sniping greather spire would be worth it in 10/10 games for Grubby if the scenario plays out the same.
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