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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1961
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1962
On January 16 2012 00:40 werynais wrote:
Zerg looks like a pretty good race.


Against protoss with no high templar or archons? Yes! But I guarantee we zerg players tare equal, if not more hair from our heads against terran

HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1963
On January 16 2012 00:42 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:40 KalWarkov wrote:
balance ftw.


dont make balance excuses for grubby being the worse player. if you ever watched stephano playing against top korean protosses with this playstyle you'd see that they dont have any trouble dealing with it. its just that grubby's lategame management/harass/army micro is not that good.


Thats not entirely true.

Some protoss is better of dealign with it. But most of the time in Korea Stephano gave alot of great protoss players nightmares. He learned to split his broodlords really well in Korea.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1964
I really don't like the fact that Zerg is neigh on unbeatable in the late game (said by many).
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1965
On January 16 2012 00:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
...hopefully all those actually said Carriers were good against this will shut up now...

It's because you're supposed to have Templar support with them. And not throw away your Mothership against nothing but Infested Terrans...


so, your toss comp is mothership, stalker, sentry, templar, carrier, archon, collosus?
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1966
I think Grubby should have Archon toiletted the Infestors so the carriers have free reign
Pokemon Master
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1967
On January 16 2012 00:43 Crashburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:42 TheDwf wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
...hopefully all those actually said Carriers were good against this will shut up now...

It's because you're supposed to have Templar support with them. And not throw away your Mothership against nothing but Infested Terrans...


Did you miss the part where the mothership was fungaled and couldn't move? And did you miss the part where HT's wouldn't have been able to get into range of the infestors because of broodlings?

Which precisely is a position mistake? What was the point of moving forward the Mothership if you don't even have Archons? Get a clue.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1968
On January 16 2012 00:41 Daniel C wrote:
Void rays are good against infested terrans? (serious question)


It's like Marines. Everything is bad against infested terrans, except AoE. You usually can't afford to spend AoE on infested terrans except maybe Colossus from long range, so you just have to flee.
NomiC
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1969
Zerg is a good race. Infestor good unit. Brood Lord good unit. Good thing protoss has good late game units like carriers. Oh, wait... Anyway, people who dont think the game is balanced are just QQing noobs. Its not like Protoss has nothing to deal with the zerg late game death ball.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1970
On January 16 2012 00:43 snIJIJzer wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:40 KalWarkov wrote:
balance ftw.

I thought you stopped watching? Stop crying balance it's annoying as hell and stephano is clearly the better player right now.


how is stephano the better player right now?
i dont see a difference at all.

both stay passive and macro, grubby even gets a lead after the first skirmishes guess what happens: Army A is unbeatable to Army B.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1971
How does a protoss deal with 15 infestors, a billion broodlords, and corruptors >< It's so strong.
Turn it Up
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1972
On January 16 2012 00:42 AWOT wrote:
Sigh why do people not make HT? =/ They are soooooooooo good.

Slow unit with paper hit points,, brood lords kill them off before they can feedback or storm anything.
Playgu
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1973
On January 16 2012 00:42 JohnMatrix wrote:
Grubby never did a single feed back vs these mass infestors why ?


I think Hts won't get past the broodlings to feedback.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1974
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


true, at the 10-15 minute mark, because thats the only way for toss to win against spine brood mass infestor.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Crashburn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States476 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1975
On January 16 2012 00:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:43 Crashburn wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 TheDwf wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
...hopefully all those actually said Carriers were good against this will shut up now...

It's because you're supposed to have Templar support with them. And not throw away your Mothership against nothing but Infested Terrans...


Did you miss the part where the mothership was fungaled and couldn't move? And did you miss the part where HT's wouldn't have been able to get into range of the infestors because of broodlings?

Which precisely is a position mistake? What was the point of moving forward the Mothership if you don't even have Archons? Get a clue.


The point of the mothership is to have cloaking. If the mothership wasn't there, then no cloaking. I'm sure your strats work in silver though.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27394 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1976
Grubby has beaten players as good as Stephano, but I don't know if it's because they know each other well or what he just seems to have a mental block against him.

WP Stephano though, that was a well-played series for sure.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1977
On January 16 2012 00:45 NomiC wrote:
Zerg is a good race. Infestor good unit. Brood Lord good unit. Good thing protoss has good late game units like carriers. Oh, wait... Anyway, people who dont think the game is balanced are just QQing noobs. Its not like Protoss has nothing to deal with the zerg late game death ball.

What do they have to deal with it?
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1978
On January 16 2012 00:45 NomiC wrote:
Zerg is a good race. Infestor good unit. Brood Lord good unit. Good thing protoss has good late game units like carriers. Oh, wait... Anyway, people who dont think the game is balanced are just QQing noobs. Its not like Protoss has nothing to deal with the zerg late game death ball.


Get out.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1979
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1751 Posts
January 15 2012 15:47 GMT
#1980
On January 16 2012 00:45 NomiC wrote:
Zerg is a good race. Infestor good unit. Brood Lord good unit. Good thing protoss has good late game units like carriers. Oh, wait... Anyway, people who dont think the game is balanced are just QQing noobs. Its not like Protoss has nothing to deal with the zerg late game death ball.


Uhm... Mothership with better composition and micro?
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