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rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
December 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#921
On December 20 2011 19:08 seansye wrote:
1 Battle that decides the whole game. Lol this happens too much in SC2.

not SC2 in general, just PvT
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 10:13:56
December 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#922
On December 20 2011 19:11 rushian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:06 dabom88 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:05 rushian wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:04 Odoakar wrote:
Goddamit, I love protoss but protoss players nowdays are so boring:|

It's just PvT. It's the worst match-up.


No. I would bet (not 100% sure) that most TOP LEVEL Protoss will tell you they hate PvZ right now more due to Mutalisk balls being hard to deal with.

I don't mean in that way. I mean to watch.. PvZ is entertaining to watch these days now that mutalisk play is rendering the colossus deathball absolete. PvT is still super-passive, the only match-up which is still regularly ball-v-ball one big engagement gg.

Also, colossus first with double forge is SUPER passive as you're just trying to turtle while you get all that tech up. At least templar-first is more streamlined and allows for more stuff to happen earlier


I'd rather watch games that are more even than unfair to one side. PvT upgrade wars can be very fun to watch.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
iiomega
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania94 Posts
December 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#923
On December 20 2011 19:11 Salteador Neo wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:09 Qikz wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:08 seansye wrote:
1 Battle that decides the whole game. Lol this happens too much in SC2.


The same thing can happen in Broodwar if the battle happens right outside your front door.

Also, people seem to retreat more in BW.


Protoss units are too slow or terran stim too fast to allow them to retreat?

And let's not forget Concussive shells.
For the night is dark and full of Terrans!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
December 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#924
On December 20 2011 19:12 metzninja wrote:
Awesome LR thread as per usual, Seeker. Minor quibble: the spoiler for the top overall results section says D1 and not D2


Fixed. Thank you
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#925
On December 20 2011 19:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:10 TT1 wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:09 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I will be absolutely shocked if MorroW can't beat Killer. I could forgive him losing to anyone else in the group, but Killer is someone MorroW should absolutely outclass.


lol not at all killer is extremely underrated, disregard his match vs bomber that was horrible

I find Killer to be a complete BEAST in PvT, maybe even best in the world, but he hasn't shown anything impressive PvZ or PvP in months. Meanwhile MorroW is really good at ZvP.

EDIT: it doesn't matter, we are both cheering for MorroW so rather than bickering we should stand united as one.


But... but... but.. Bitterness and hatred is what binds us all together in the LR thread!!

P.S GOOOOOO MORROW! The only zerg I'll ever root for :-p
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Ovreel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States206 Posts
December 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#926
On December 20 2011 19:12 Notfragile wrote:
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On December 20 2011 19:10 akalarry wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:10 tomatriedes wrote:
On December 20 2011 19:07 Silentness wrote:
haha and that's why you don't have your Colossi separate from your anti-air. (face palm)


Yeah you move all your stalkers out to protect the colossi and then you get doom dropped in your main.


yah how does terran ever lose?


You don't need ALL your stalkers on one place. Go watch hero. A few stalkers with colossi (few means 6-7) and a few (same number) on the base. When there are vikings trying to poke and kill colossi, warp in some there. When there's a drop going in the base, warp in stalkers there.

And of course, have an observer to look out for drops to have time for the warpin. Tassadar had 2-3 obs killed and never made another one.


Building obs=colossi not building, hard to find a time to replenish obs.

Kinda like if terran loses all of their medivacs but needs vikings to counter colossi.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#927
Hopefully ryung and bomber play a high level tvt right here, but i feel like one of them is just going to flop
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#928
On December 20 2011 19:09 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I will be absolutely shocked if MorroW can't beat Killer. I could forgive him losing to anyone else in the group, but Killer is someone MorroW should absolutely outclass.

Err... Wasn't Killer in Code S last month?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#929
On December 20 2011 19:13 rushian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:08 seansye wrote:
1 Battle that decides the whole game. Lol this happens too much in SC2.

not SC2 in general, just PvT


Most of the protoss matchups, actually. I hope this will change a bit when HOTS comes out.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#930
The battle of the jackets!
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 10:17:58
December 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#931
On December 20 2011 19:12 Seeker wrote:
Just a friendly reminder:

No balance whine please. Keep the thread civilized and joyful.



to be fair I don't think there is any balance whine, just a general consensus that the matchup is boring and anticlimactic, at least in last two PvT games.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#932
On December 20 2011 19:10 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 19:09 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I will be absolutely shocked if MorroW can't beat Killer. I could forgive him losing to anyone else in the group, but Killer is someone MorroW should absolutely outclass.


lol not at all killer is extremely underrated, disregard his match vs bomber that was horrible

I agree with your preevious analysys (Morrow should win tassadar and lose both terran), but I think Morrow can also win Gumiho (depending on Gumiho's form, he can play very well and very average)
Morrow can also beat Killer, but Ryung was the only easy win in the group.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#933
On December 20 2011 19:15 Drazerk wrote:
The battle of the jackets!

Bomber's jacket is bigger. Obviously translates to more skill
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#934
After two disgusting games, this should be a good match. Bomber vs Ryung the tvt god.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#935
On December 20 2011 19:13 dabom88 wrote:
I'd rather watch games that are more even than unfair to one side. PvT upgrade wars can be very fun to watch.

Except one side always wins this war.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#936
Cant they move the tvts to the end q_q? Ill be back in 2 hours
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#937
this should be pretty good. tvt is the one match Ryung shines in :p
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Treziel
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#938
Tassadar in epic fail at macro game shocker? He should stick to allins, he's good at them.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#939
Ryung has sick TvT. This could be a great match.
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 20 2011 10:17 GMT
#940
Ryung's going to take this
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