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On December 20 2011 19:07 Silentness wrote: haha and that's why you don't have your Colossi separate from your anti-air. (face palm)
Yeah you move all your stalkers out to protect the colossi and then you get doom dropped in your main.
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On December 20 2011 19:07 anonymitylol wrote: Why do no protoss players get HTs? It's depressing to see. You can't effectively get both collosus and HT on two bases. The alternative is straight to HT, but that style is very weak to the ghost pushes that have found popularity in the last few months...
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That stalkers positioning were just terribad.... =.=
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On December 20 2011 19:10 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:07 Silentness wrote: haha and that's why you don't have your Colossi separate from your anti-air. (face palm) Yeah you move all your stalkers out to protect the colossi and then you get doom dropped in your main.
yah how does terran ever lose?
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On December 20 2011 19:09 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:08 Drazerk wrote:On December 20 2011 19:07 Switchy wrote: One of the biggest fails in the history of GSL Sadly there has been much worse Clearly they were not around for the snarf era. Good ol' tvt's on delta quadrant, each one taking turns running their army into siege tanks and losing any advantage they gained by the other guy running their army into siege tanks. That stuff was the worst :p dont you ever speak of this map again!
being 4gated countless time as zerg was painfull
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On December 20 2011 19:10 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:09 RPR_Tempest wrote: I will be absolutely shocked if MorroW can't beat Killer. I could forgive him losing to anyone else in the group, but Killer is someone MorroW should absolutely outclass. lol not at all killer is extremely underrated, disregard his match vs bomber that was horrible I find Killer to be a complete BEAST in PvT, maybe even best in the world, but he hasn't shown anything impressive PvZ or PvP in months. Meanwhile MorroW is really good at ZvP. 
EDIT: it doesn't matter, we are both cheering for MorroW so rather than bickering we should stand united as one.
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Hope we don't get more TvP's like these we have seen to day. I am starting to yawn.
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On December 20 2011 19:06 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:05 rushian wrote:On December 20 2011 19:04 Odoakar wrote: Goddamit, I love protoss but protoss players nowdays are so boring:| It's just PvT. It's the worst match-up. No. I would bet (not 100% sure) that most TOP LEVEL Protoss will tell you they hate PvZ right now more due to Mutalisk balls being hard to deal with. I don't mean in that way. I mean to watch.. PvZ is entertaining to watch these days now that mutalisk play is rendering the colossus deathball absolete. PvT is still super-passive, the only match-up which is still regularly ball-v-ball one big engagement gg.
Also, colossus first with double forge is SUPER passive as you're just trying to turtle while you get all that tech up. At least templar-first is more streamlined and allows for more stuff to happen earlier
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On December 20 2011 19:09 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:08 seansye wrote: 1 Battle that decides the whole game. Lol this happens too much in SC2. The same thing can happen in Broodwar if the battle happens right outside your front door. Also, people seem to retreat more in BW.
Protoss units are too slow or terran stim too fast to allow them to retreat?
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On December 20 2011 19:10 weiliem wrote: That stalkers positioning were just terribad.... =.=
Necessary to defend against drops unless you have some HTs+Cannons, And on 2 base you can't support colossi+HT
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36923 Posts
Just a friendly reminder:
No balance whine please. Keep the thread civilized and joyful.
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i don't see the point of getting such fast colossus if you aren't going to do a timing. i like the double forge build transitioned into colossus.
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Awesome LR thread as per usual, Seeker. Minor quibble: the spoiler for the top overall results section says D1 and not D2
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On December 20 2011 19:11 Salteador Neo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:09 Qikz wrote:On December 20 2011 19:08 seansye wrote: 1 Battle that decides the whole game. Lol this happens too much in SC2. The same thing can happen in Broodwar if the battle happens right outside your front door. Also, people seem to retreat more in BW. Protoss units are too slow or terran stim too fast to allow them to retreat? TvP fights are generally insanely one sided one way or the other
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Hmm Morrow vs Tassadar on Dual Sight. That should be easy if he just prepares and scouts for cheese properly.
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On December 20 2011 19:10 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:10 tomatriedes wrote:On December 20 2011 19:07 Silentness wrote: haha and that's why you don't have your Colossi separate from your anti-air. (face palm) Yeah you move all your stalkers out to protect the colossi and then you get doom dropped in your main. yah how does terran ever lose?
You don't need ALL your stalkers on one place. Go watch hero. A few stalkers with colossi (few means 6-7) and a few (same number) on the base. When there are vikings trying to poke and kill colossi, warp in some there. When there's a drop going in the base, warp in stalkers there.
And of course, have an observer to look out for drops to have time for the warpin. Tassadar had 2-3 obs killed and never made another one.
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On December 20 2011 19:10 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 19:10 tomatriedes wrote:On December 20 2011 19:07 Silentness wrote: haha and that's why you don't have your Colossi separate from your anti-air. (face palm) Yeah you move all your stalkers out to protect the colossi and then you get doom dropped in your main. yah how does terran ever lose?
I'm pointing out why he left the stalkers in the main. There was a reason behind it.
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On December 20 2011 19:12 Seeker wrote: Just a friendly reminder:
No balance whine please. Keep the thread civilized and joyful.
Repeating this because I foresee an incoming flame fest
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gaaah PvT is so one dimensional. I hope Mech gets figured out or Ps find a way to be more aggressive and win (other than an allin)
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On December 20 2011 15:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 14:58 GodOfWar wrote: Many games here seem like a coinflip, but I ve picked 4 games today on Pinnaclesports
60 Euro on Bomber vs Morrow. 1.485 Quote, not impressive, but should be a sure one. Map in Bombers favour, and TvZ is his best matchup (77%)
10 Euro on Ryung vs Bomber. 2.00 Quote. Mainly because of the good Quote, but Ryungs best matchup is TvT, while Bomber lost some mirrors lately.
10 Euro on Tassadar vs Killer. 2.03 Quote. This is kind of a gamble, but Killer didnt seem too impressive in mirror, while Tassadar could easily make an upset.
40 Euro on Gumiho vs Tassadar. 1.73 Quote - I cant see Gumiho losing this on Antiga. And he has beaten better Protoss players. Actually Tassadar is weirdly good on Antiga. 7-3 with wins over the players who normally own him hard (Squirtle, etc.).
good thing, he got outskilled, like I expected :D
That was a crucial bet, now Bomber has to win and anything else would be the cherry on top of the cake :p
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