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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#9401
On December 17 2011 22:17 AXygnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:15 Goibon wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 thoradycus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs rain

If i had to write down every GSL finals, this would be the one i forget about.


Inca vs Nestea?

I'd like to forget about that one...

Memorable for all the wrong reasons. I don't remember the Rain MC one at all. I think Rain got outplayed pretty hard but that's all i got.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
December 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#9402
Now blizzard needs to make other nonmirrors as exciting. Read: negate protoss ball.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#9403
On December 17 2011 22:18 CrappyHippo wrote:
Behind all the greatness, what happened to protoss?

Dustin Browder is what happened. It seems like he used Protoss for all his C&C fantasies
axejaw
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom171 Posts
December 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#9404
So so so good. I still have chills.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
December 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#9405
On December 17 2011 22:19 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:17 AXygnus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:15 Goibon wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 thoradycus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs rain

If i had to write down every GSL finals, this would be the one i forget about.


Inca vs Nestea?

I'd like to forget about that one...

Memorable for all the wrong reasons. I don't remember the Rain MC one at all. I think Rain got outplayed pretty hard but that's all i got.


I remember Rain cheesed his way to the final
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Labbetuss
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway568 Posts
December 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#9406
That was insane! And the best thing is, it can only get better. I can't imagine how good 2012 is gonna be. It'll be the year of Starcraft 2.
MKP | HerO | Taeja | NonY | Creator | NesTea | Bomber | Mvp | Prime 4 ever
Bowzer
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada214 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9407
Awesome set, best starcraft I have ever witnessed
A drinking community with a gaming problem.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9408
On December 17 2011 22:17 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:14 Zarahtra wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:09 Telcontar wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:04 Zarahtra wrote:
On December 17 2011 21:55 Telcontar wrote:
Epic game. However, I question DRG's decision to push into the production instead of taking out MMA's expansions to the south and holding groud with his infestor/broolord composition. A rush of blood to his head I think.

I dont know, he was short on income(even if we ignore those 2 hero tanks) and the army he had wasn't really *that* scary, MMA kinda just fumbled the last battle by clumping his vikings up. I feel MMA would've been able to win easier by getting a bit more units and then cutting DRG off at the 4th. The terrain and slow push into the production was very well executed, had he just kept a 1-2 infestors alive it'd probably have been gg.

The problem for MMA was that he was on defensive mode and retreated all of his units back to his natural/main when he saw DRG's army push up. If DRG had decided to target the bottom expansions he would've had a lot of trouble getting those tanks & bio in place without being killed by the infestors (who had a lot of energy) & lings. Basically MMA chose the battleground and DRG fell into that. Did you see all those lings at the end forced into chokes between MMA's production buildings? That's not really what you want to happen when you're doing the infestor/broodlord push since it's so positional. You want to choose where the engagement will happen and make him come to you. DRG attacking the bottom would've forced MMA to either head out and meet it or counter.

I just think you are assuming that DRG knew how he would be able to crush the vikings. There was really no indication through the game that a FG would be able to hit even more than 1 viking what then like 10*2. So yeah, if he always could've done so much dmg with FGs guaranteed, it'd have been smarter, but he kind of needed to make something happen, since if MMA had microed his vikings aswell as he had been doing through the game, his BLs wouldn't really be that scary which would've decreased his armies power a lot. So yeah, I think it was the best possible move from DRG.

I'm still not convinced. When all of your reinforcements are zerglings, you don't want to attack into a place full of chokes. If he had engaged in a more open terrain, DRG would've taken out MMA's army. Would that have ended the game? Perhaps not, but he would've gained map control to retake his bases and lay siege to MMA's only working expansions.

DRG was barely mining. His only chance was the production facilities because he was all-in, taking the time to kill two planetaries would have allowed MMA to just crush his not so good army with reinforcements, + the fungals would not have been that good against not clumped marines (they were clumped cuz of the rax). It was a good decision imo
WriterMaru
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9409
On December 17 2011 22:19 rift wrote:
Now blizzard needs to make other nonmirrors as exciting. Read: negate protoss ball.

Don't worry, the blizz design team was watching.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 13:21:16
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9410
On December 17 2011 22:13 Femari wrote:
[image loading]

mma flying <3

Falling with style! That light makes that a wicked cool picture
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9411
On December 17 2011 22:17 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:14 Zarahtra wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:09 Telcontar wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:04 Zarahtra wrote:
On December 17 2011 21:55 Telcontar wrote:
Epic game. However, I question DRG's decision to push into the production instead of taking out MMA's expansions to the south and holding groud with his infestor/broolord composition. A rush of blood to his head I think.

I dont know, he was short on income(even if we ignore those 2 hero tanks) and the army he had wasn't really *that* scary, MMA kinda just fumbled the last battle by clumping his vikings up. I feel MMA would've been able to win easier by getting a bit more units and then cutting DRG off at the 4th. The terrain and slow push into the production was very well executed, had he just kept a 1-2 infestors alive it'd probably have been gg.

The problem for MMA was that he was on defensive mode and retreated all of his units back to his natural/main when he saw DRG's army push up. If DRG had decided to target the bottom expansions he would've had a lot of trouble getting those tanks & bio in place without being killed by the infestors (who had a lot of energy) & lings. Basically MMA chose the battleground and DRG fell into that. Did you see all those lings at the end forced into chokes between MMA's production buildings? That's not really what you want to happen when you're doing the infestor/broodlord push since it's so positional. You want to choose where the engagement will happen and make him come to you. DRG attacking the bottom would've forced MMA to either head out and meet it or counter.

I just think you are assuming that DRG knew how he would be able to crush the vikings. There was really no indication through the game that a FG would be able to hit even more than 1 viking what then like 10*2. So yeah, if he always could've done so much dmg with FGs guaranteed, it'd have been smarter, but he kind of needed to make something happen, since if MMA had microed his vikings aswell as he had been doing through the game, his BLs wouldn't really be that scary which would've decreased his armies power a lot. So yeah, I think it was the best possible move from DRG.

I'm still not convinced. When all of your reinforcements are zerglings, you don't want to attack into a place full of chokes. If he had engaged in a more open terrain, DRG would've taken out MMA's army. Would that have ended the game? Perhaps not, but he would've gained map control to retake his bases and lay siege to MMA's only working expansions.

From what I remember, MMA had two bases running, and a third CC ready at south. It would have taken too much time to even things for DRG, i. e. MMA would have pushed to victory if DRG had tried to rebuild his economy.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9412
That was unbelivably epic.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9413
So glad that MMA managed to win. I would have been really sad if he ended up loosing especially after he went 3-0 right out the bat.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 13:21:08
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9414
DRG doesn't pay attention to his minimap for a whole minute, where a drop is in plain sight. Has to cancel his fourth.

MMA takes his third, making for three vs three expansions, sets up a good perimeter defense in the middle, but doesn't tech, expand or continue harassing.

DRG does tech and eventually mows MMA's perimeter defense, then continues attacking with Ultralisks split up into different chokes. Loses them. Then makes all his corruptors into broodlords and moves them into MMA's remaining army with some zerglings. Loses them.

MMA sets up a lesser perimeter defense and starts attempting to snipe hatcheries. He is successful, since DRG is too afraid to keep units or even static defense there, apparently expecting the immobile perimeter defense to somehow move forward; siege tanks on high-ground, missile turrets and all.

Unable to keep his hatcheries up, DRG is forced to make a last attack, once again mowing MMA's perimeter defense and making it to his base, and a choke. Then losing.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9415

On December 17 2011 22:11 Cereb wrote:
I love how SC2 gives us these incredible moments! So much better than regular sports! !


well this is just flat out ignorant
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 17 2011 13:20 GMT
#9416
On December 17 2011 22:19 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:17 AXygnus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:15 Goibon wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 thoradycus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs rain

If i had to write down every GSL finals, this would be the one i forget about.


Inca vs Nestea?

I'd like to forget about that one...

Memorable for all the wrong reasons. I don't remember the Rain MC one at all. I think Rain got outplayed pretty hard but that's all i got.


I like to consider SC vs Nestea the real finale of the (Inca vs Nestea) Season.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
December 17 2011 13:21 GMT
#9417
On December 17 2011 22:19 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:17 AXygnus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:15 Goibon wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 thoradycus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs rain

If i had to write down every GSL finals, this would be the one i forget about.


Inca vs Nestea?

I'd like to forget about that one...

Memorable for all the wrong reasons. I don't remember the Rain MC one at all. I think Rain got outplayed pretty hard but that's all i got.



I have vague memories of it all being to the tune of MC being contained in his natural by tank play for a time, then busting.
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 17 2011 13:21 GMT
#9418
On December 17 2011 22:20 MaestrO_ wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:11 Cereb wrote:
I love how SC2 gives us these incredible moments! So much better than regular sports! !


well this is just flat out ignorant


different strokes for different folks
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
December 17 2011 13:21 GMT
#9419
On December 17 2011 22:19 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:18 CrappyHippo wrote:
Behind all the greatness, what happened to protoss?

Dustin Browder is what happened. It seems like he used Protoss for all his C&C fantasies


Let's be honest. Warp Gate tech and Chrono puts all Protoss strategy on the edge of a knife. Either you win by landslide or you lose miserably. All the while the 2 races with more reasonable mechanics have epic games.
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 17 2011 13:21 GMT
#9420
On December 17 2011 22:19 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:17 AXygnus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:15 Goibon wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 thoradycus wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs rain

If i had to write down every GSL finals, this would be the one i forget about.


Inca vs Nestea?

I'd like to forget about that one...

Memorable for all the wrong reasons. I don't remember the Rain MC one at all. I think Rain got outplayed pretty hard but that's all i got.


Game 1 was Rain all-inning twice and both times failed, Game 2 was Artosis who couldn't get into the game + a 20 kill DT and... yeah, I think that's all I can remember. Or want to remember.

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