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On December 15 2011 20:53 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:50 Redox wrote: Lol little ridiculous how down the commentators sound just becaise their favorite palyer has not won. MMA played better, deal with it. Meh. TvT is more of a coin flip than most people think. There's just so much stuff that can be done which means there's so much stuff you need to counter.
All MVP needed was a bunker. If you're going mech you badly need a bunker or you're just asking to die. He played too greedy, MMA capitalised. ^^
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On December 15 2011 20:52 Therg wrote:Even if MMA would win 10 BoX series against MVP, ppl will still say that MVP is the better terran  That is because he IS the better terran. Head to head series are a bad parameter for determining who is a better player. They just determine who is a better player against each other.
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On December 15 2011 20:54 MrCash wrote: It's interesting to note that both MMA and Polt were in this tournament BECAUSE of MVP winning so many tournaments that qualified him 3 times. They earned the slot by being ranked 4th and 5th in GSL. If MVP didn't win so much, he probably would have gone up easier opponents this time. Not a legitimate strategy, just an interesting thing to be aware of.
Thats why MMA said in an interview he is going to buy MVP a nice dinner.
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On December 15 2011 20:54 Zalithian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:53 hysterial wrote:On December 15 2011 20:52 Therg wrote:Even if MMA would win 10 BoX series against MVP, ppl will still say that MVP is the better terran  Excuse me what has MMA won? Now tell me what MVP has won. Well, a GSL Final vs MVP, for one. LOL
http://sc2earnings.com/
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On December 15 2011 20:54 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:53 dormer wrote:On December 15 2011 20:52 Grettin wrote:On December 15 2011 20:51 dinmsab wrote:What has IU got to do with this?? *watches anyway* IU will be performing at the finals :p Wait are you serious?! Wow, this day has just been salvaged :-o Tell me you're not joking please I DID NOT KNOW THIS!!! HOLY SHIT!!! I LOVE IU!!!
I love you too, but this isn't really the place t--oh, IU. Well yeah, I do love IU too.
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On December 15 2011 20:55 WigglingSquid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:52 Derez wrote:On December 15 2011 20:50 Redox wrote: Lol little ridiculous how down the commentators sound just becaise their favorite palyer has not won. MMA played better, deal with it. When you're hosting an event about the best player of 2011, you're kinda hoping for the objectively best player of 2011 to win it ;p. I think MVP will sleep over the loss in Blizzard Cup, which was marketed as being the competition that would proclaim the best player of 2011. Sleep over it on his bed made out of prize money. yea MMA said he owes him anyways during the media event. He wouldnt be in the tournament if MVP hadnt taken a third of the entries
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Well we will still have the GSTL classic of dongraegu vs MMA which is quite well known for being beyond awesome.
Honestly I don't think people should hate on MMA, he is an entertainer and is known for having the upperhand against MVP, he also plays for SlayerS so special tactics must occur in every series. Otherwise Boxer won't look you in the eyes...
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On December 15 2011 20:55 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:53 Spiner wrote:On December 15 2011 20:50 Redox wrote: Lol little ridiculous how down the commentators sound just becaise their favorite palyer has not won. MMA played better, deal with it. Meh. TvT is more of a coin flip than most people think. There's just so much stuff that can be done which means there's so much stuff you need to counter. All MVP needed was a bunker. If you're going mech you badly need a bunker ... or Siege Tank upgrade.
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Some of you here seem to have selective memories... MMA has beat MVP in countless macro games. I know a lot of you are butt-hurt you can't quite call your favourite player 'bonjwa'. MMA has huge potential, and today he showed (again) he is in contention for best Terran player. Deal with it.
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On December 15 2011 20:55 A Wet Shamwow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:53 hysterial wrote:On December 15 2011 20:52 Therg wrote:Even if MMA would win 10 BoX series against MVP, ppl will still say that MVP is the better terran  Excuse me what has MMA won? Now tell me what MVP has won. You know.......... THAT GSL FINALS OVER MVP
To bad MVP doesn't have any GSL wins or tournament wins for that matter
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On December 15 2011 20:55 hysterial wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:54 Zalithian wrote:On December 15 2011 20:53 hysterial wrote:On December 15 2011 20:52 Therg wrote:Even if MMA would win 10 BoX series against MVP, ppl will still say that MVP is the better terran  Excuse me what has MMA won? Now tell me what MVP has won. Well, a GSL Final vs MVP, for one. LOL http://sc2earnings.com/
I've never said MVP isn't the best. But MVP fans shouldn't be so butthurt that MMA is > MVP when they play each other. Kinda like Polt vs MMA.
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On December 15 2011 20:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:52 Hassybaby wrote: The best ZvT vs the best TvZ...this should be good hopefully
The DRG/MMA games have been pretty ace so far. what? IMHappy isnt in the tournament? I guess you mean 2nd best TvZ for mma, right? 
Eurgh...I hate that guy so much...
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Let's see if MVP thorws his probes away on the 3rd place match...
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Couldn't they just make a Polt image? He did get to the Ro6 and give good games.
Come on, GOM Photoshop Guy. I need a new wallpaper.
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On December 15 2011 20:56 Zalithian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:55 hysterial wrote:On December 15 2011 20:54 Zalithian wrote:On December 15 2011 20:53 hysterial wrote:On December 15 2011 20:52 Therg wrote:Even if MMA would win 10 BoX series against MVP, ppl will still say that MVP is the better terran  Excuse me what has MMA won? Now tell me what MVP has won. Well, a GSL Final vs MVP, for one. LOL http://sc2earnings.com/ I've never said MVP isn't the best. But MVP fans shouldn't be so butthurt that MMA is > MVP when they play each other. Kinda like Polt vs MMA.
I never said MVP owns MMA, I said MVP is the better overall terran, which is undeniable.
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Go back to rts basics. Cheese and allins have nothing to do with timing.
Cheese is something where the odds of a build's success depends very heavily on it either not being easily countered when scouted e.g: CC first TvZ, cannon rush PvZ, +1 sling allin ZvZ
Allin is a strategy that has no logical followup e.g: marine scv allin, 5gate warp prism, 6pool
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On December 15 2011 20:55 WigglingSquid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:52 Derez wrote:On December 15 2011 20:50 Redox wrote: Lol little ridiculous how down the commentators sound just becaise their favorite palyer has not won. MMA played better, deal with it. When you're hosting an event about the best player of 2011, you're kinda hoping for the objectively best player of 2011 to win it ;p. I think MVP will sleep over the loss in Blizzard Cup, which was marketed as being the competition that would proclaim the best player of 2011. Sleep over it on his bed made out of prize money. Imo it was kind of silly of GOM to make a tournament where they declare best player of the year with this one. It was kind of obvious and not really even close as to who was the best player regardless of the result.
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Both my favorite players got knocked out… sad day idd. Grats to drg and mma tho.
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On December 15 2011 20:54 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:52 Derez wrote:On December 15 2011 20:50 Redox wrote: Lol little ridiculous how down the commentators sound just becaise their favorite palyer has not won. MMA played better, deal with it. When you're hosting an event about the best player of 2011, you're kinda hoping for the objectively best player of 2011 to win it ;p. That said, MMA just was better. MVP not playing near his usual standard and MMA's playstyle is unpredictable as hell. Objectively? MMA TvZ is much better than MVP's. MMA just beat him in a TvT. And both their TvPs suck ass, unless you want to preach to me how MVP's 1-1-1 and 2-Base Marine Tank timings aren't cheese.
You don't know what you are talking about if you think MMA's TvZ is much better than MVP's.
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Hey wait
we should ask for a 3rd/4th place match
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