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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon | ||
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:21 Corrik wrote: Thank you. I thought it was premium only for some reason like AoL. I thought the same yesterday  the gom player has been acting wierd for me the past days, so when I found the twitch stream I was more than happy. | ||
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qazadex
Australia473 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:21 Kinky wrote: Naniwa lost the last 2 games with poor decision-making despite having a massive lead. *points at interview Which interview? | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:21 unSpeake wrote: Naniwa was supply blocked for like 30 seconds as polt moved across the map, and left 4 zealots not fighting in the first engagement. Two MASSIVE mistakes. not imbalanced. not stupid strategy. a huge choke by naniwa as usual yeah polt probably wondered how he could win that game lol | ||
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:18 Qikz wrote: He was trading really really efficiently. It slowed down the push so much yet Naniwa didn't have enough units back at home. Throwing the zealots away cost him I think. Nah if we checked the replay we'd see the naniwa traded inefficiently. By far. He was killing 2-4 marines and losing 2 zealots over and over and over as well as random sentries and stalkers. It was stupid and all it did was delay his extra gateways and the robo. | ||
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tymt
Sweden293 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:19 MaestrO_ wrote: That wasnt a 1-1-1 people.. Okay guy User was warned for this post | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:17 AndAgain wrote: This game made no sense. Medivacs + 1-1-1 is really good. The basic reason Naniwa lost, though, is that he failed to tech up and instead tried to break Polt off of two bases. Normally, this would work, since a Terran producing off of one base and who doesn't have bunkers can't really hold off a Protoss 6 gate. But medivacs really make gateway armies obsolete, and once the first medivac was out Naniwa was screwed. Medivacs > no splash damage. You have to have a tech response by the time they have a sizable number of them. | ||
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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
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hasuterrans
United States614 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:21 Shikyo wrote: That wasn't efficient, he got like 2 marines for 3 stalkers, also he cut like 20 probes total during that attack. If he just fell back and chronod probes and then warped like 3-4 full rounds while having like 4 immortals he'd have won easily Also he lost at least 1 sentry and used up the energy on the others. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Firstly, NaNiwa was not being greedy. What are you calling greedy? The early expand? You can't hold any non-bio all-in on one base, you just die. Try beating a 1-1-1 on one base, not only will you die but even if you don't a terran can transition out of it significantly easier than you. His build was a 1gate expand which can defend absolutely anything terran can do with good scouting. It's not "greedy", it's standard. He knew his opponent was in one base, he wasn't making probes, he wasn't teching hard, he wasn't getting upgrades etc. His downfall in that game was nothing related to his economy. His problem was that his robo was incredibly late and he had a crucial supply block as that attack was coming. I make the same mistake in my games, when you are pressuring the front you need to acknowledge the point at which you need that robo because if you go too long without it you instantly lose. He shouldn't have warped in so many units, kept poking around to force SCVs off the line and thrown down that robo immediately. The point at which the game was over was when Polt was able to siege up uncontested, you can't break that. If NaNi had enough of an army with a few immortals and attacked while Polt was sieging up he would have won without too much issue. | ||
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Darkthorn
Romania912 Posts
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Deep[BluE[
Switzerland78 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:17 Nosferatos wrote: how is this possible, 2 base vs 1 after 10 mins should be easy win what the heck is wrong with sc2. Nani threw away too many units at Polt's choke, got supply blocked when he was about to retreat and waited too long to add additional unit producing structures. Individually those mistakes aren't drastic, but together he just didn't have the units to stop Polt's momentum after moving out. I'm okay with not cutting probes, but he was just sooo inefficient with his trading at the choke. I have a bad resolution, how much gas did Nani have when before building his Robo? Edit: Oh and it was certainly no 1-1-1, it started as a 2rax  | ||
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Coolhwip
Sweden1381 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:17 Zannadar wrote: Wow. Greedy? He was not greedy. Why charge into tanks with so much economy? Pull your probes to your main base and gather a huge army. You have the probe advantage. Such horrible mistakes. And attack through the choke later? Im sorry but you dont know what you're talking about. He didnt need 40 probes aganst 20 scvs 1 base tho, couldve stopped at ~~30 and stomped the allin tbh. | ||
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
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gh0un
601 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:18 doko100 wrote: oh god, when you are on 2 base vs. 1 base and constantly attack and throw away units its no wonder you are going to lose, wtf is wrong with people. Thats such a wrong statement. Polt has obviously better production because he has already planned the all in, naniwa doesnt have the production yet because he is building probes still. His trades were perfect, if he hadnt done anything polt wouldve just arrived with massive amounts of units and rolled naniwas few stalkers and zealots over. Naniwa´s pressure slowed the attack down and made it a lot weaker than it wouldve been if he hadnt done anything, the only problem is he didnt have enough sentries at home to cut those marines in half. | ||
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Flanq
United Kingdom2694 Posts
Over-producing probes, not building gates/robo soon enough, donating units/unit health for nothing in return, leaving 6 zealots in his mineral line and not bringing them in to the battle until he'd already lost units. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On December 13 2011 20:22 Miraju wrote: theres no need to whine about balance. everyone just saw that this is fucking broken lol. or that naniwa played poorly | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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MaestrO_
United States591 Posts
Fantastic argument, i now see why i was incorrect. | ||
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