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On December 13 2011 02:43 Telcontar wrote: Watching this game just reminds me how far these 'progamers' have yet to go.
These are two of the best progamers right now, please be respectful when you talk about them, and don't judge based on one game. Thanks alot.
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On December 13 2011 02:45 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:43 Telcontar wrote: Watching this game just reminds me how far these 'progamers' have yet to go. Are you just gonna throw some vague observation in and not back it up with an argument? his argument is implied: SC2 bad, broodwar good. I guess he just forgot about the other implication: watching this game even though he thinks it was bad makes him what? dumb?
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On December 13 2011 02:45 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:43 Telcontar wrote: Watching this game just reminds me how far these 'progamers' have yet to go. Are you just gonna throw some vague observation in and not back it up with an argument? Did you not watch the game yourself? Bomber endlessly refusing to split his army and getting fungal'd in the face. In fact both players losing units sloppily all over the place. That decision by losira to take out bomber's top left when it was being mined out and lose all of his army.... and many other mistakes here and there. The game was very entertaining but pretty bad in terms of quality of play.
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I guess I hit a nerve. If you're satisfied that what you saw was the creme de la creme of TvZ, fine. I however see it differently and am not afraid to say it. Let's agree to disagree.
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On December 13 2011 02:49 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:45 R!! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:43 Telcontar wrote: Watching this game just reminds me how far these 'progamers' have yet to go. Are you just gonna throw some vague observation in and not back it up with an argument? Did you not watch the game yourself? Bomber endlessly refusing to split his army and getting fungal'd in the face. In fact both players losing units sloppily all over the place. That decision by losira to take out bomber's top left when it was being mined out and lose all of his army.... and many other mistakes here and there. The game was very entertaining but pretty bad in terms of quality of play.
Consider, that theyre maybe not playing with 100 %, considering how much money is on the table 
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On December 13 2011 02:52 GoSuChicken wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:49 Telcontar wrote:On December 13 2011 02:45 R!! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:43 Telcontar wrote: Watching this game just reminds me how far these 'progamers' have yet to go. Are you just gonna throw some vague observation in and not back it up with an argument? Did you not watch the game yourself? Bomber endlessly refusing to split his army and getting fungal'd in the face. In fact both players losing units sloppily all over the place. That decision by losira to take out bomber's top left when it was being mined out and lose all of his army.... and many other mistakes here and there. The game was very entertaining but pretty bad in terms of quality of play. Consider, that theyre maybe not playing with 100 %, considering how much money is on the table 
no offense, but imo thats complete BS. Do you really think pro gamers can conciously decide to not play at their very best?
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that baneling mine........... wonderful bait.
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wow, those clumped banelings..........
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Wow beautiful baneling burrow there by losira
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On December 13 2011 02:56 Sackings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 02:52 GoSuChicken wrote:On December 13 2011 02:49 Telcontar wrote:On December 13 2011 02:45 R!! wrote:On December 13 2011 02:43 Telcontar wrote: Watching this game just reminds me how far these 'progamers' have yet to go. Are you just gonna throw some vague observation in and not back it up with an argument? Did you not watch the game yourself? Bomber endlessly refusing to split his army and getting fungal'd in the face. In fact both players losing units sloppily all over the place. That decision by losira to take out bomber's top left when it was being mined out and lose all of his army.... and many other mistakes here and there. The game was very entertaining but pretty bad in terms of quality of play. Consider, that theyre maybe not playing with 100 %, considering how much money is on the table  no offense, but imo thats complete BS. Do you really think pro gamers can conciously decide to not play at their very best? Not consciously, but I don't think they are trying their hardest when playing ladder or a tournament with far less prestige than for example the GSL. In the GSL players usually practice specific strategies for each map, that they have prepared beforehand. This also raises the level of play.
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How did bomber miss those banelings burrow mid battle 0_0
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Bomber when are you going to make a raven? -.-
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On December 13 2011 03:00 milesfacade wrote: How did bomber miss those banelings burrow mid battle 0_0
It's not exactly easy to spot banelings burrowing amidst a sea of green death as you desperately try to micro away from them =p
Losira's ZvT is definitely much improved.
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looking forward to burrowed baneilng movement in HotS........ NOT
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On December 13 2011 02:50 Telcontar wrote: I guess I hit a nerve. If you're satisfied that what you saw was the creme de la creme of TvZ, fine. I however see it differently and am not afraid to say it. Let's agree to disagree.
It was more the apostrophe's on the word pro-gamer that was offensive. It's one thing to criticize players but that's just disrespectful.
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On December 13 2011 03:01 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:00 milesfacade wrote: How did bomber miss those banelings burrow mid battle 0_0 It's not exactly easy to spot banelings burrowing amidst a sea of green death as you desperately try to micro away from them =p Losira's ZvT is definitely much improved. Yeah I'm really impressed, his muta ling bane is reminding me of DRG. Not as good but it's on the right path.
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Really clever play from losira. I really liked the baneling burrow mid battle, It's so nice to see a zerg finally do that.
I have to admit though that every time I hear Khaldor pronounce the silent B in bomber it makes my brain hurt.
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On December 13 2011 03:05 SolidZeal wrote: Really clever play from losira. I really liked the baneling burrow mid battle, It's so nice to see a zerg finally do that.
It's straight out of the Leenock playbook.
Losira just looked on another level to Bomber this series; even though he lost the second game it still felt like he was pretty much the better player.
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On December 13 2011 03:01 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:00 milesfacade wrote: How did bomber miss those banelings burrow mid battle 0_0 It's not exactly easy to spot banelings burrowing amidst a sea of green death as you desperately try to micro away from them =p Losira's ZvT is definitely much improved.
The Korean version doesn't have the sea of green! :D
It was just that as far as it sounds burrowed banelings destroyed him in game 2 as well? Jjackji scans pretty much everywhere and this just seems to highlight yet another flaw in Bomber's tvz as far as I'm concerned.
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