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[KSL] Individual League: Monday, December 12th - Page 13
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minilance
Canada500 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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StarStruck
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On December 13 2011 03:46 BronzeKnee wrote: Choya apparently plays at a higher level then when he was in the GSL. That was amazing. Actually, I don't think he plays at a higher level. It's just that the players tonite are not really top-class players. I would've put Top and Bomber in the top-class category but they're in a slump atm. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 13 2011 03:47 Azzur wrote: Actually, I don't think he plays at a higher level. It's just that the players tonite are not really top-class players. I would've put Top and Bomber in the top-class category but they're in a slump atm. I know that choya has really big nerve issues and he was talking to himslef during his games in GSL to reassure himslef, so he could be playing much better at home too | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 13 2011 03:47 Azzur wrote: Losira's ZvP play is pretty outdated, relying on ling runbys which was shutdown easily. Imagine if he didn't have to waste lings on failed attacks and can use them to defend properly. Not outdated as much as being bad on that particular map. Ling runbys could have been an effective maneuver if he had defended the war prism harass at the back natural and pulled it out to the late game, where Choya's 4th and 5th would be vulnerable. On December 13 2011 03:47 Azzur wrote: Actually, I don't think he plays at a higher level. It's just that the players tonite are not really top-class players. I would've put Top and Bomber in the top-class category but they're in a slump atm. TOP's not in a slump. His TvP's just being exposed for what it is - incredibly mediocre for a Korean Terran. If he doesn't fix his control problems he will fall out of the GSL entirely. Bomber's never been the best at TvZ either. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On December 13 2011 03:51 pPingu wrote: I know that choya has really big nerve issues and he was talking to himslef during his games in GSL to reassure himslef, so he could be playing much better at home too Well, nerve issues or not, I still didn't see a great game from Choya (more like a poor game from Losira): - Set1 was a complete debacle by Losira, difficult to understand why Losira lost. Maybe he got over-confident? - Set2 was not a good game at all. - Set3 featured many mistakes. The WP drop did alot of damage because Losira was too fond of ling runbys. Also, Choya had a failed FF at the ramp. Massive supply block at 118. I didn't think it was a good game at all. | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Would be awesome to see track list) | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On December 13 2011 03:53 CosmicSpiral wrote: Not outdated as much as being bad on that particular map. Ling runbys could have been an effective maneuver if he had defended the war prism harass at the back natural and pulled it out to the late game, where Choya's 4th and 5th would be vulnerable. TOP's not in a slump. His TvP's just being exposed for what it is - incredibly mediocre for a Korean Terran. If he doesn't fix his control problems he will fall out of the GSL entirely. Bomber's never been the best at TvZ either. Actually, I agree with you. If you look at set1, Losira had many failed ling attacks as well. He didn't need to be overly aggressive in the early game, and can use them with great effect in the lategame, when lings because very expandable. A bit harsh on TOP but alot of truth in it - he had good macro but I never did see him as a great player. I also agree on Bomber being relatively weak at TvZ but he's also definitely in a slump - which would magnify his weaknesses even more. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On December 13 2011 04:01 eYeball wrote: How did Choya manage to win? I'm stunned since I thought he was in a more of a coaching position than player? I only saw last 2 games, in game 3 he did a WP sentry drop which killed drones and the hatch(Losira relying only on zerglings and runbyes -_-) while having taken his third. Was pretty much over from there as he could take 5 bases without issues while teching heavy | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 13 2011 03:58 Azzur wrote: Actually, I agree with you. If you look at set1, Losira had many failed ling attacks as well. He didn't need to be overly aggressive in the early game, and can use them with great effect in the lategame, when lings because very expandable. A bit harsh on TOP but alot of truth in it - he had good macro but I never did see him as a great player. I also agree on Bomber being relatively weak at TvZ but he's also definitely in a slump - which would magnify his weaknesses even more. I've noticed several micro mistakes in Losira's GSL matches as well, and I can't help but wonder if he's been getting lazy in that department. You can see it in all of TOP's games, but his TvP matches and two Ro4 series against Polt make it especially noticeable. TvP is the matchup where lack of army micro gets most heavily punished. True. It will take him a while to get back in form. I know Choya's games don't seem especially good when you're expecting him to play like the very top Koreans, but compared to what he used to do I'd pick new Choya over old Choya any day. Old Choya had great build orders and good execution, but he was like a child when it came to making in-game decisions. | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
didnt expect that | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
Weird huh, we need a zerg monster who is top in all 3 matchups. Nestea comes close but we have to see his ZvT tomorrow  | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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