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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3081
On December 05 2011 14:17 HinagikUx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:15 Darclite wrote:
Guys it's just that Puma is so good, I mean look how he plans ahead by building 4 banshees from one starport at the same time. And that was so smart to stop and snipe the assimilators at Hero's main instead of making sure he could win.

i lol'd...he queued banshees cuz his macro is shit and he relys on cheesy shenanigans like hidden starport or hidden ghost rush to win lol

HAVING banshees, a useful skill toi have. =(
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3082
I believe in HerO! He can do it! Let's us channel all of your positive energy to HerO.
Don't mind me
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3083
On December 05 2011 14:16 0neder wrote:
Great game, but it pisses me off that Puma can get away with this and still win. This is what turns me off to PvT. Puma can be not mining for minutes at a time and still win. Shouldn't protoss be the race where 1 of a unit like the banshee is deadly, rather than Terran?

during a baserace?

Puma gambled everything on being able to win with that single army. He had a decent group of marines and quite a large tank force, whereas Hero had no AoE and critically too many blink stalkers but not enough detection.

If he had built a 3rd and 4th obs while he was contained (his robo was idle for some time) he could have won, instead he gambled on the archons to break the contain and lost.
Lakai
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada315 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3084
Time to reach in to the magic cheese hat. What do we pull out?
HerO - Minigun - MaNa - Puzzle - NonY - Axslav - MKP - DeMusliM - SeleCT - LosirA
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3085
i would lol if it was 4 rax all in
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Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3086
SCVs are a pretty good auxiliary unit...
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3087
Come on, HerO. We believe in you!
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3088
On December 05 2011 14:17 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:16 0neder wrote:
Great game, but it pisses me off that Puma can get away with this and still win. This is what turns me off to PvT. Puma can be not mining for minutes at a time and still win. Shouldn't protoss be the race where 1 of a unit like the banshee is deadly, rather than Terran?

Puma won because Hero pushed the contain almost immediately when Puma was not mining - he had the economic lead and just needed to wait


i dont know what game you were watching but hero waited as long as he could.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3089
mass marine w/ tank is unstoppable until splash. hero went econ and gw and hoped to smash pumas army w/ that, but it didn't work and he couldn't get coli / plar. great play to almost hold. i like 2 base marine tank from t, but you need to do a timing.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3090
On December 05 2011 14:15 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
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On December 05 2011 14:15 Golgotha wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:14 Hopelessnoob wrote:
This is so dumb,,, no one can win base race vs terran


wtf is up with stupid comments like this? do you not remember Nani vs MVP at MLG? Guess who won?


He's right. One exception does not change the fact.

That wasn't the reason Hero lost though.


rofl are you serious? you just stated my point to the letter. you cant simply use the game we just saw (hero vs puma) as a generalization for terran being op in base race scenarios.

He said no one can win. no one. well nani won. lol
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3091
On December 05 2011 14:19 jznx wrote:
y didnt hero run 1 probe or make 1 probe at base and make cannons when banshee was killing his stuff at da middle

Puma had how many mules? He had what, 4 probes?
Tehbing
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Singapore99 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3092
Hero must not lose hope now! He can make a comeback! Hero fightiiiinnnggg!!!
"My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre" - Life, the Universe & Everything
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 05:19:57
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3093
On December 05 2011 14:17 Lakai wrote:
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On December 05 2011 14:16 Hier wrote:
What the hell... why didn't he just stall for cannons? He had a functional base. Early gg imo...

With 12 probes, no units, no gas and only a cannon it's GG.

It's not. A stalker's shields regenerate, a banshee's health doesn't. A banshee's cloak isn't permanent. Puma had no SCVs. Too early of a gg. He could have microd that stalker for a chance at victory while the banshees take like 10 minutes to destroy Hero's base.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3094
Pretty awesome finals so far.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Isoth
Profile Joined October 2011
United States10 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3095
On December 05 2011 14:17 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:16 0neder wrote:
Great game, but it pisses me off that Puma can get away with this and still win. This is what turns me off to PvT. Puma can be not mining for minutes at a time and still win. Shouldn't protoss be the race where 1 of a unit like the banshee is deadly, rather than Terran?

Puma does this every PvT. He never wins macro games and only wins when he does a 111, 311, marine scv all in or a ghost timing.


I am glad someone else sees this as well.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3096
On December 05 2011 14:15 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Wow. Puma didnt deserve that game =( Hero outplayed him so hard, at the end all came to 2 banshee =(


I don't know how you can just say that. If Hero blinked and sniped the raven would you say, "Puma outplayed him so hard, but at the end it came down to 2 DTs"

Hero let Puma snipe his observer. This game comes down to small things that have dire consequences, please think the next time you post "X outplayed Y".
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3097
On December 05 2011 14:17 McPhiz wrote:
lol everyone is a hero fanboy here


More like anti-terran... but yeah, it's a pain to read through the comments around here.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3098
On December 05 2011 14:18 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:16 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:15 Azzur wrote:
Very poor decision making by Hero - he crippled Puma's economy (by DTs) but then decided to push into the contain almost immediately... why not wait longer???

wtf are u talking about immediately... he fucking waited as long as he could before going to break...

No, he didn't - he could've waited longer before going for the break. A couple more warp-ins and he would've had enough to break it

dude were u watching the game he had alrdy made his gateways like 5 times and had no room lefr he waited as long as he could
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#3099
On December 05 2011 14:16 Hier wrote:
What the hell... why didn't he just stall for cannons? He had a functional base. Early gg imo...


His probes were running from the 4 banshees ...

Still this game makes me so sad Hero made mistakes but I think he still shoudlve won that, hero ad no income for soo long qq I think after killing all the workers he just shoulödve stalled, its not like puma could do anything
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 05 2011 05:20 GMT
#3100
On December 05 2011 14:17 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:15 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Wow. Puma didnt deserve that game =( Hero outplayed him so hard, at the end all came to 2 banshee =(

I completely agree. Air units shouldn't be this strong to be viable, it makes the game too volatile. Make air units faster and weaker.


are you trolling?

HerO got 3 base against a HUGE 2 base allin, didn't get his tech up until wayyy too late, and got punished for it. The base race wouldnt have occurred if HerO wasn't so greedy.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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