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Proko
United States1022 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:39 Pirat6662001 wrote: Can someone explain how that happened? strelok had the 3rd for longer, had more income and had siege tanks, wtf. Strelok cut units to get 3 bases and was way behind IdrA's smart 3 base timing attack. 2 minutes later and Strelok has a nice lead. | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:39 Pirat6662001 wrote: Can someone explain how that happened? strelok had the 3rd for longer, had more income and had siege tanks, wtf. siege tanks don't make you invincible, especially when you don't have enough to defend a fast third like that. | ||
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:39 Pirat6662001 wrote: Can someone explain how that happened? strelok had the 3rd for longer, had more income and had siege tanks, wtf. He made like three tanks in that entire game, and he lost one to mutas straight away. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
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PolskaGora
United States547 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:39 Automata wrote: punishing greedy play. gg idra My sentiments exactly. By the way, what are the little cards that the players are handed after losing a game? | ||
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:40 MenSol[ZerO] wrote: games dont start until like an hour in But, but... but theres kpop. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote: LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose) if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ what... All you need are tanks and strelok made a thor which was 1 less tank, then lost a tank so he was down what could have been a couple more tanks which is huge. The reason Idra attacked was strelok took a greedy third and lacked in the tank department (only 2 tanks when he should have had more). | ||
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Makotoo
Finland159 Posts
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:40 caradoc wrote: strelok delayed 2nd for so long them didt do anything w/ hellions  he expected idra to take 2 expos via muta map-control, so eh was going to go for a 3 base timing push, he wasn't expecting idra to attack that point, at least that's how I see it. edit: if he just bunkered up harder strelok would have held it, but it was unexpected. | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote: LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose) if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ ... or you can just skip being super greedy and hold it off without breaking a sweat | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:37 synapse wrote: Yes? Puma's TvZ isn't exactly unbeatable... Well, it doesn't look good for him judging by this. :/ | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:39 Pirat6662001 wrote: Can someone explain how that happened? strelok had the 3rd for longer, had more income and had siege tanks, wtf. What happened is called hitting a timing. IdrA hit exactly when he would win. Strelok's build had a tiny little flaw wich IdrA seized. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:39 Pirat6662001 wrote: Can someone explain how that happened? strelok had the 3rd for longer, had more income and had siege tanks, wtf. He went for thors way too fast. Thors do well against muta, but not really great against lings. He really needed that critical amount of tanks to deal with lings and banelings, especially banelings. He was just being too greedy on tech. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote: LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose) if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ It doesn't take 1100 minerals of turrets to defend 8-10 mutas if you stay on two bases. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:42 AlternativeEgo wrote: Well, it doesn't look good for him judging by this. :/ Last BO3 was 2-1. Seems doable. | ||
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:41 blade55555 wrote: what... All you need are tanks and strelok made a thor which was 1 less tank, then lost a tank so he was down what could have been a couple more tanks which is huge. The reason Idra attacked was strelok took a greedy third and lacked in the tank department (only 2 tanks when he should have had more). pretty sure even with 3 extra tanks he would have lost to that push. thats the huge weakpoint that exists when a terran takes a third that fast, and also tried to make turrets around his base for mutas its almost smarter to not build 10 turrets and just make 3 (1 in each mineral line) get faster raxes and put 8 marines in each mineral line so at least those marines can fight in the big battle | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:42 Alpino wrote: What happened is called hitting a timing. IdrA hit exactly when he would win. Strelok's build had a tiny little flaw wich IdrA seized. Out of all the explanations, I like this one the most.  | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote: LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose) if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ What Terran can do is not spend 1100 on turrets. Spend 400 on Turrets instead, camp your army at your 3rd, only build turrets for the main/nat | ||
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