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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
December 03 2011 06:43 GMT
#8501
On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote:
LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever


at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose)

if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets



honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ


The fark? Strelok playing super greedy getting third CC and idra just punish by putting on heavy aggresion.
Play your best
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 03 2011 06:43 GMT
#8502
On December 03 2011 15:43 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
awww missed it what was Idra's intro music


Skrillex
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 03 2011 06:43 GMT
#8503
On December 03 2011 15:43 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
awww missed it what was Idra's intro music


Skrillex - Kill Everybody
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 03 2011 06:43 GMT
#8504
On December 03 2011 15:42 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote:
LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever


at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose)

if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets



honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ


It doesn't take 1100 minerals of turrets to defend 8-10 mutas if you stay on two bases.


Yeah even on 3 bases its if you put 3 at each base 900 minerals not 1100 . And for the early muta count you don't need to invest to heavily, you just need to invest more as he keeps building the muta flock.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
December 03 2011 06:44 GMT
#8505
Ok Guys, im out for 20 Minutes...i have to buy new energy
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 03 2011 06:44 GMT
#8506
On December 03 2011 15:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 15:37 synapse wrote:
On December 03 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:
On December 03 2011 15:33 Alpino wrote:
On December 03 2011 15:32 BlackGosu wrote:
why is puma 59% to win? that should be the most onesided series of the first round


Sen vs TT1 was much more predictable to be onesided. Sheth in a good day can take games off pretty much anyone.

And more importantly, everybody loves Sheth.

take a game yes. take a bo5 off puma? seriously?

Yes? Puma's TvZ isn't exactly unbeatable...


Well, it doesn't look good for him judging by this. :/

Not saying it's going to be easy, but I don't think Puma has improved much over the last few months, it's definitely possible for Sheth to pull it off.
:)
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 03 2011 06:44 GMT
#8507
On December 03 2011 15:44 Ventris wrote:
Ok Guys, im out for 20 Minutes...i have to buy new energy


Keep strong!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
December 03 2011 06:44 GMT
#8508
Strelok's investment of third already paid off by that point, he just didn't think he would have to defend that position
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
December 03 2011 06:45 GMT
#8509
On December 03 2011 15:42 Mioraka wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 15:39 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Can someone explain how that happened? strelok had the 3rd for longer, had more income and had siege tanks, wtf.


He went for thors way too fast.

Thors do well against muta, but not really great against lings.

He really needed that critical amount of tanks to deal with lings and banelings, especially banelings. He was just being too greedy on tech.



Strelok´s build has a timing window where it´s really weak , note that he wsa building like 4 or 5 production buildings when he died,had those had time to kick in, things would have been completely different, idra just had 4 hatches with queens and perfect injects,more than enough to flood that greedy play with lings in a map so open as crevasse , also thors where too fast, at that point you can still defend with turrets and marines pretty easily
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 03 2011 06:45 GMT
#8510

On December 03 2011 15:40 roymarthyup wrote:
LOL idra figured out something ive realized forever


at the MOMENT muta timing hits, the terran spends 1100+ minerals in turrets around his 3 bases (or, if he is on 2 bases and didnt take a third, its a auto lose)

if you see the terran spent that 1100 minerals on turrets, you just hit the front with mass line/bane and it hits at the perfect time where the terran has such a small army because he just spent so much on turrets



honestly, dunno WTF terran can do against this. its a massive weakpoint in TvZ


Lolwut. You're wrong.

1) More than 11 turrets? Is this real life?
2) Not having a third at 12 minutes is not autolose. He had fast third because it is Crevasse.

o,o
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
December 03 2011 06:45 GMT
#8511
Nice move there by Strelok.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 06:45:59
December 03 2011 06:45 GMT
#8512
actually Idra played that off perfectly, didnt even make many lings


edit: nm he did lol
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 03 2011 06:46 GMT
#8513
Is Goody in Strelok's booth?
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Spessi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
304 Posts
December 03 2011 06:46 GMT
#8514
am i watching a thor rush?
"Um. Everyone, I love you!" - Boxer, IPL 3, Oct 8, 2011
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
December 03 2011 06:46 GMT
#8515
1 factory thor push! :D
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 03 2011 06:47 GMT
#8516
How were the Thorzain/Demuslim games? I missed them, anyone with a summary whether they were good or bad?
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 03 2011 06:47 GMT
#8517
What is this build Strelok?! Teach me your secrets!
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
December 03 2011 06:47 GMT
#8518
its almost as if strelok and bratok are teammates:D
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 03 2011 06:48 GMT
#8519
On December 03 2011 15:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
its almost as if strelok and bratok are teammates:D


Haha, well played.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
December 03 2011 06:48 GMT
#8520
Nice job by Strelok to deny any sort of creep spread with those hellions.
IdrA is totally in the dark.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
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