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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:14:05
November 30 2011 10:13 GMT
#761
Well after NASL, I hope Hero stops attending foreign tournaments for a while and just devotes his time to practice and streaming. After MLG, Dreamhack (great win), and upcoming NASL,he hasn't had time to practice. Hero fighting!
Don't mind me
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
November 30 2011 10:13 GMT
#762
On November 30 2011 19:08 ElephantBaby wrote:
Gom should just stop calling code A or code S. Code A has no champion anymore, just a preliminary round for code S, so it is basically just one tournament with one champion. Dropping to code A doesn't mean much also, you can still win code S next season.

Code S should be called GSL, and it is better than just Code S anyway.


You still need to differentiate the players that have a chance to win the GSL (code S), and the players in the qualifying bracket (code A). Code A/S is as good a designation as any other, and the audience is already used to these terms.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 30 2011 10:13 GMT
#763
On November 30 2011 19:10 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:09 KristofferAG wrote:
Monster v Curious game 1 LR.

0.00
MVPMonster is spawning as the red zerg in the top left corner.
StarTale_Curious is spawning as the blue zerg in the bottom right corner.

4.00
Monster goes gas and pool first. Curious gets a hatch first, into gas and pool.
Monster also gets two pairs of zerglings and starts the Metabolic Boost upgrade immediately. Baneling nest planted down. Keeps producing zerglings, no drones.

8.00
Curious gets his speed way later than his opponent, and a spine at his front. Monster attacks with banelings, but Curious manages to get a queen block on his ramp, and cleans out the initial attack without losing much. Another spine crawler placed.
Monster gets multiple more banelings, ready to bust the queens.

Monster finally gets into the base of Curious, but only a few lings remain, and it's once again cleaned out. Another attack prepared for Monster.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
November 30 2011 10:13 GMT
#764
On November 30 2011 19:10 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:08 mcmartini wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:06 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:05 susySquark wrote:
Its the eternal struggle of protoss... builds that counter 1-1-1 are bad against everything else, so 1-1-1 maps are a coinflip


if only toss had a unit that can scout the opponent early on and even scout when they move out. Blizzard needs to make this units. And name it.....the observer.













o wait....

You're right Protoss should just always open robo and become entirely predictable :/



if u see a gas and a bunker then fucking scout. idc if u have to give an arm and a leg. U make that observer and u fucking scout and counter whatever your opponent does like a good player

Newsflash, phoenixes scout too.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
November 30 2011 10:14 GMT
#765
Longest Break ever
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 30 2011 10:14 GMT
#766
On November 30 2011 19:10 nweb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:08 Iamyournoob wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:05 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:02 happyness wrote:
Phoenixes are sooooooo dumb for TvP . Why Hero, WHY?!


Because of the possibility of 1/1/1 on that map. Asd meta-game'd Hero hard on those 2 last games. Sad because i feel HerO is more than twice better than asd, but clever/tricky play carried asd. =_(


Yeah, that is what people commonly refer to as "beatiful decision making" - a nice way to speak about build order wins...


You mean Hero going phoenix PvT because terran built a gas?


Well partly yeah, that too.

I can't wait for a few years to pass by so we can get a game that is not about who mindgames better to win the rock paper scissors, but about actual skill.

These "strategic" wins take away A LOT from SC2 as a competitive game.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 30 2011 10:14 GMT
#767
On November 30 2011 19:13 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:10 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:08 mcmartini wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:06 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:05 susySquark wrote:
Its the eternal struggle of protoss... builds that counter 1-1-1 are bad against everything else, so 1-1-1 maps are a coinflip


if only toss had a unit that can scout the opponent early on and even scout when they move out. Blizzard needs to make this units. And name it.....the observer.













o wait....

You're right Protoss should just always open robo and become entirely predictable :/



if u see a gas and a bunker then fucking scout. idc if u have to give an arm and a leg. U make that observer and u fucking scout and counter whatever your opponent does like a good player

Newsflash, phoenixes scout too.


he was dead when that phoenix scouted it, he was 1basing hard.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 30 2011 10:16 GMT
#768
DRG, Supernova, AND TAEJA PLAYING??? Yesssss
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
November 30 2011 10:16 GMT
#769
On November 30 2011 19:13 ptbl wrote:
Well after NASL, I hope Hero stops attending foreign tournaments for a while and just devotes his time to practice and streaming. After MLG, Dreamhack (great win), and upcoming NASL,he hasn't had time to practice. Hero fighting!


-_-;;; Bomber?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
November 30 2011 10:16 GMT
#770
LOL DAT SPLIT!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 30 2011 10:17 GMT
#771
These two aren't too impressive at zvz so far... gonna go watch drg.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 30 2011 10:17 GMT
#772
On November 30 2011 19:13 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:10 KristofferAG wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:09 KristofferAG wrote:
Monster v Curious game 1 LR.

0.00
MVPMonster is spawning as the red zerg in the top left corner.
StarTale_Curious is spawning as the blue zerg in the bottom right corner.

4.00
Monster goes gas and pool first. Curious gets a hatch first, into gas and pool.
Monster also gets two pairs of zerglings and starts the Metabolic Boost upgrade immediately. Baneling nest planted down. Keeps producing zerglings, no drones.

8.00
Curious gets his speed way later than his opponent, and a spine at his front. Monster attacks with banelings, but Curious manages to get a queen block on his ramp, and cleans out the initial attack without losing much. Another spine crawler placed.
Monster gets multiple more banelings, ready to bust the queens.

Monster finally gets into the base of Curious, but only a few lings remain, and it's once again cleaned out. Another attack prepared for Monster.

12.00
Curious doesn't target-fire banelings with his spines, and a baneling makes it into the mineral line of Curious, doing mass damage.

Once again banelings make it into the base of Curious, but nice positioning with his queen and a great drone split saves him, only losing a few workers. Monster is still on 1 base.

Monster preparing another massive baneling attack. Only 2 banelings push through, killing a total of 1 drones due to the nice split of Curious.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 30 2011 10:18 GMT
#773
They probably didn't watch that 1 ZvZ in the first playoff games to get into Code A between I believe Golden and someone on Scrap Station. Man was that a long Baneling-Zergling game
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
November 30 2011 10:18 GMT
#774
You have to get banes when you fast expand in ZvZ. Zerglings and spines dont cut it against this sort of baneling aggression.
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:19:48
November 30 2011 10:18 GMT
#775
On November 30 2011 19:13 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:08 ElephantBaby wrote:
Gom should just stop calling code A or code S. Code A has no champion anymore, just a preliminary round for code S, so it is basically just one tournament with one champion. Dropping to code A doesn't mean much also, you can still win code S next season.

Code S should be called GSL, and it is better than just Code S anyway.


You still need to differentiate the players that have a chance to win the GSL (code S), and the players in the qualifying bracket (code A). Code A/S is as good a designation as any other, and the audience is already used to these terms.


Current Code A players and MVP both have chance to win next season's code S, MVP just got seeded better. Code A is just preliminary round for next season which got played before the end of current season to save time.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
November 30 2011 10:18 GMT
#776
On November 30 2011 19:17 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
These two aren't too impressive at zvz so far... gonna go watch drg.


If he ever comes on....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Fenrisulf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States325 Posts
November 30 2011 10:19 GMT
#777
On November 30 2011 19:06 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:05 susySquark wrote:
Its the eternal struggle of protoss... builds that counter 1-1-1 are bad against everything else, so 1-1-1 maps are a coinflip


if only toss had a unit that can scout the opponent early on and even scout when they move out. Blizzard needs to make this units. And name it.....the observer.













o wait....


Yeah HerO should have gone 1 gate robo, fast observer to see what's going on, if he sees 1-1-1 he can then do the appropriate counter and if he sees a fast CC like asd did he can keep up with macro too.....oh wait..

If you are gonna go for a fast observer you might as well go stargate because the stargate counters 1-1-1 better and both are screwed if your opponent FE'd like asd did.

Hero had to play safe b/c nexus first on that map is instant loss, 1 gate expand is also incredibly hard to defend, so that means if asd 1-1-1s only the Phoenix build really effectively counters it as you can't get the Econ boost from a FE to counter it normally. So HerO had to make a gamble, he blind countered 1-1-1 and it didn't pay off.


Yeah it was a terrible build against what asd was doing but the problem is on that map you have to guess, you are gonna be playing from behind no matter what if you guess wrong and there is no safe 'reactionary' build that you can do that doesn't put you way behind in Econ.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 30 2011 10:19 GMT
#778
Curisou is such a boss, lol.
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
November 30 2011 10:19 GMT
#779
finally a baneling nest for curious..
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
November 30 2011 10:19 GMT
#780
monster needs to build a spine
and use it like a magnet, on curious' creep.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
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