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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
November 30 2011 10:04 GMT
#701
Hero lost so many phoenixes needlessly. I think he's suffering from jet lag. This doesn't bode well for his chances at NASL.
Don't mind me
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:06:05
November 30 2011 10:04 GMT
#702
On November 30 2011 19:03 susySquark wrote:
Completely unremarkable play from ASD, sad to see HerO go to that. Phoenixes were a bad choice of opening against that marine expand into 3rax

Don't need remarkable play when you go for build order win. ASD is a good player and punished Her0 for relying on penix.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9034 Posts
November 30 2011 10:04 GMT
#703
And I thought Hero already 2-0'd.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 30 2011 10:04 GMT
#704
On November 30 2011 19:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:01 Brett wrote:
On November 30 2011 19:01 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On November 30 2011 18:57 Brett wrote:
Ugh STOP phoenix production... It is a complete dead end for you given your opponent's build, Hero

you cant just go half hearted phoenix thats just dumb

He got two in the base and shouldnt have made more seeing so many rax and rine/rauder

you half to go to 4 or 5 2 is a waste

You can just keep the 2 to scout and transition into a robo tech. Putting all the resources into something which can't help fight off that many raxes doesn't make any sense.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:05:56
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#705
Its the eternal struggle of protoss... builds that counter 1-1-1 are bad against everything else, so 1-1-1 maps are a coinflip, ESPECIALLY since HerO scouted a Terran going gas, and then a bunker at the front. It looked almost exactly like 1-1-1
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#706
On November 30 2011 19:03 Ovreel wrote:
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On November 30 2011 19:02 happyness wrote:
Phoenixes are sooooooo dumb for TvP . Why Hero, WHY?!



Dual site is a notorious map for the 1-1-1, Hero seemed to be trying to metagame ASD similar to what he did to Puma at DH.

Protoss still seem to be struggling int he GSL


Just because Hero does a terrible build and doesn't react to scouting doesn't mean Protoss are struggling in the GSL.
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hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:05:27
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#707
asd meta-gaming Hero :\
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#708
Freaking foreign tournaments, they only get in the way.
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#709
On November 30 2011 19:02 happyness wrote:
Phoenixes are sooooooo dumb for TvP . Why Hero, WHY?!


Because of the possibility of 1/1/1 on that map. Asd meta-game'd Hero hard on those 2 last games. Sad because i feel HerO is more than twice better than asd, but clever/tricky play carried asd. =_(
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#710
What is the song on the Hero stream?
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#711
On November 30 2011 19:03 Vifee wrote:
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On November 30 2011 19:01 SilverforceX wrote:
LOL @ ppl who think terran are weak.

Even as a Protoss player I have to say that Hero's build was not very good, and his execution was nowhere near as good as it normally is, sleep deprivation maybe?

Nah it's the map. It's a great map for 1/1/1 and also 2 rax, he tried to counter the 1/1/1 but asd outsmarted him by taking the scvs off gas and fast expanding. And from there he was forever behind!



primal
Profile Joined July 2010
Philippines114 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#712
yo. build order loss. smart play by asd anyway.
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#713
problem for hero is that he hasnt had much time to just sit down and practice hardcore for this matchup, i mean between dreamhack last week which he had to fly out there for early to probably arriving monday morning/afternoon doesnt give him too much time. hopefully he can just fly out tomorrow morning and get settled for nasl
For the Emperor!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#714
Hero really needed a coach to tell him that asd would macro in game 3. That was nearly obvious.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
November 30 2011 10:06 GMT
#715
Hero must have had a few too many drinks in Sweden, he was completely off his game on all three maps, making so many uncharacteristic mistakes.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
November 30 2011 10:06 GMT
#716
On November 30 2011 19:05 susySquark wrote:
Its the eternal struggle of protoss... builds that counter 1-1-1 are bad against everything else, so 1-1-1 maps are a coinflip


if only toss had a unit that can scout the opponent early on and even scout when they move out. Blizzard needs to make this units. And name it.....the observer.













o wait....
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:10:53
November 30 2011 10:06 GMT
#717
On November 30 2011 19:02 happyness wrote:
Phoenixes are sooooooo dumb for TvP . Why Hero, WHY?!

they are great if you have the multitasking skills, and Hero has them. but they are not op. you need to do tons of damage, sniping mules scvs reinforcements sniping medvacs before they have healed up the entire terran army etc.
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HitMonkie
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia518 Posts
November 30 2011 10:06 GMT
#718
Choya needs a Bonus.

The way FXO is playing, Theyare metagaming everyone and the mind games they play are ahead of the pack.

FXO 2GD
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 30 2011 10:07 GMT
#719
On November 30 2011 19:05 MrCon wrote:
Hero really needed a coach to tell him that asd would macro in game 3. That was nearly obvious.

I don't know what was so obvious about it. Players go 2 rax or 1-1-1 on that map like 90% of the time.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 30 2011 10:07 GMT
#720
On November 30 2011 19:03 Ovreel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 19:02 happyness wrote:
Phoenixes are sooooooo dumb for TvP . Why Hero, WHY?!



Dual site is a notorious map for the 1-1-1, Hero seemed to be trying to metagame ASD similar to what he did to Puma at DH.

Protoss still seem to be struggling int he GSL


HerO loses and now you say P are struggling... lol

HerO showed the true strengths of late game PvT on Antiga, the moment Terran makes one mistake it's game. Meanwhile HerO didn't scout / react to mass Thor in game 2 and then tried to meta game / blind counter a build asd wasn't doing on Dual Sight,

HerO DESERVED to lose and lost. Meanwhile July beat Genius as Genius played beyond bad
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