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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 26 2011 12:33 GMT
#1521
Mana has always had such good PvZ. A lot of times much better than huk or naniwa in my opinion. Nerchio though, so strong in every mu this tournament.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 26 2011 12:33 GMT
#1522
Most intense game? Guess he missed Sheth vs Hero.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
November 26 2011 12:33 GMT
#1523
On November 26 2011 21:31 Luk_e wrote:
how is protoss supposed to get a fourth base on this map against zerg?


Look at how many cannons he has at his 3rd, add some of those to protect a 4th. He has had ample time to take and defend a 4th when Nerchio was back home defending.
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
November 26 2011 12:33 GMT
#1524
meh, 50 probes on one base, and nothing in the main, gaaaahhhhhh
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
November 26 2011 12:33 GMT
#1525
On November 26 2011 21:32 darkness wrote:
Mana's crucial mistakes: overprepared for mutas, doesn't use his main base's minerals & gas, no 4th base
Am I correct?

He couldnt take another base because of ling runbys and muta harass. He overbuilt cannons though, yes
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1526
pretty sick how long a toss can survive on 3base, imagine if he actually had 4bases ;p
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1527
Bleeeughh. Mana vs Nerchio... both played really well in that game, but... I feel Protoss need to figure out a better way to play endgame. Void Rays are really good, but they are so expensive to get in decent numbers.
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1528
Dear Day9, ToD vs Sheth was a sloppy game. Just stop comparing every PvZ to that random set.
But still luv you Sean <3
Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1529
On November 26 2011 21:32 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:30 Full.tilt wrote:
Some pro zergs still don't have infestors in a separate control group? So sad.


I always point this out when people claim the skill cap has been reached in sc2 ...

Like when you see top Protoss have zealots behind stalkers in one control group. But yeah even code S players just derp their infestors right into the enemy army... even I don't do that.
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1530
On November 26 2011 21:33 HolydaKing wrote:
i always facepalm when immortals don't get microed. they do shit damage then


Fungal does things
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1531
On November 26 2011 21:32 HowardRoark wrote:
High level game between Mana and Nerchio, still so boring to watch... '

Long macro games even worse than quick 6 gate all ins.

It wasn't boring at all. Not as good as Hero v Sheth but still highly entertaining
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
SecondChance
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia603 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1532
Volume so damn loud when they start getting excited, and too damn quiet when they are talking normally.

I have to turn it down every time they shout, and turn it back up when they aren't :S
I see the want to in your eyes.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1533
On November 26 2011 21:34 SeaSwift wrote:
Bleeeughh. Mana vs Nerchio... both played really well in that game, but... I feel Protoss need to figure out a better way to play endgame. Void Rays are really good, but they are so expensive to get in decent numbers.

And they die to mutas like flys. Fungals are pretty good, too
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1534
On November 26 2011 21:33 SmoKim wrote:
Best game of the tournament so far, so intense ;o gogo Nerchio!


I guess you missed Hero vs Sheth, don't miss that replay, its a must watch
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 12:34:57
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1535
On November 26 2011 21:32 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:30 Full.tilt wrote:
Some pro zergs still don't have infestors in a separate control group? So sad.


I always point this out when people claim the skill cap has been reached in sc2 ...


yes! facepalm at so many mistakes from narchio (and mana too but it doest matter that much).

and, keep making ultras = you wanna lose the game. sigh.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1536
On November 26 2011 21:32 iky43210 wrote:
Hero vs Sheth has ruin these games for me. Mana just doesn't seem to be that good and nerchio is too 1-a syndrome and don't make drones.

Toss turtling and he has like 55 drones near late mid game

He lost a lot of drones defending one of his expansions.
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
November 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1537
Day9 alternates between earsplitting shouting and microscopic whispering, lol. I can never seem to set the sound to a perfect level when it comes to his casting >:O
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 26 2011 12:35 GMT
#1538
On November 26 2011 21:31 Luk_e wrote:
how is protoss supposed to get a fourth base on this map against zerg?

I think he could've taken his base after he killed of nerchio's army and fifth base; also, I think the central base not the northern one would be better in this situation.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 26 2011 12:35 GMT
#1539
On November 26 2011 21:31 Luk_e wrote:
how is protoss supposed to get a fourth base on this map against zerg?

cannons/army placement?

Mana completely devoted himself to defending his third, with mass cannons and army there all the time. If he had preemptively put half those cannons at his 4th, then made the nexus, lings wouldn't have killed it every time.
I love crazymoving
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 26 2011 12:35 GMT
#1540
It's always fun reading one post going "Omg, best game so far." followed by a post going "Worst game EVER..."

Paraphrasing but still...
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