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GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 19:19:49
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5221
On November 27 2011 04:14 Mekebra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:11 1ManArmy wrote:
Does capcom support the game by bringing out new patches / nerfing , buffing certain characters?
Or are there just a few characters viable for competitive gaming?

They change things around from what I know.

And then when major changes happen, they release Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Advanced FX (Add words as you please)
But obviously they'll never achieve full balance, just as with any game.
However, the skill it takes and the reactions needed more than weigh up a lot of the balancing as, simply put, there aren't enough factors to outweigh imba skills.

They patch things but generally with new expansions. Players accept that half of the characters aren't playable but there is generally a good balance between the top tier of characters.

(Unlike MvC3 wher Pheonix dominates all but Justin Wong)
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
MekTypro
Profile Joined July 2010
France360 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5222
check check check test test test

:D
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5223
Listen to TASTELESS!! :D
Primal666
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovenia418 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5224
was day9 saying testestestest?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5225
Cute Toss versus retje

Let's roll!
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5226
On November 27 2011 04:10 absalom86 wrote:
Lets make some bets... What will Rets and Hero's heart beats per minute be in the other semi final ?

I'm going with Ret 90, not going above 100 the whole time.

Hero will be 90, spiking up to 140-150.


If they corelate with their APMs, Hero will need an ambulance on standby when hes warp prism harassing.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5227
On November 27 2011 04:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:10 absalom86 wrote:
Lets make some bets... What will Rets and Hero's heart beats per minute be in the other semi final ?

I'm going with Ret 90, not going above 100 the whole time.

Hero will be 90, spiking up to 140-150.

ret is a cool cucumber. his heart beat will never exceed his drones (which is usually ~90-100). =)


Good theory, everytime his heart beat goes up, he will be like "Oh shit, better catch up with drones."

Thats why sometimes he over makes them.
ReseT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States273 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5228
I actually kind of have to agree with Slasher on his take on E-Sports. E-Sports is already taken lightly by outsiders, putting us under the "No Life" and "Nerd" column, so why bash our fellow gamers? I've played games from WC2, SC1, WC3, HoN, LoL, and SC2. Obviously I love every game, well, besides HoN it was pretty stupid. That doesn't mean I should be bashing the game, they're other people out their playing the game and if anything if they're good at it and trying to grow the community, I would respect them even more.

E-Sports will never be taken seriously if we continue to put down another community of E-Sports.
vVv Gaming
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5229
On November 27 2011 04:14 kslghost wrote:
Yea, the casting should be focused less on the bit by bit action pieces and on the general ideas that are going on. That will bring in more interest. Saying something like Akuma is trying to zone with the jump hadoukens in order to not allow his opponent to get in close range on his own terms would be a better analysis than omg combo oh dodge oh throw.



Casting Fighting games is kinda different from casting RTS and FPS' anyway. And even then, commentators also vary styles, some just go about the general ideas, some will talk about deeper things and some will just build hype going apeshit with OOF!!!!
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5230
Artosis is a quake live fanboy as well :D yay.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#5231
I actually agree with Slasher for once, enjoy the games you love and respect the one's you don't. Anyone calling any game shit does nothing and is not needed, instead of pressing the post button ask yourself if it is necessary for you to say something disrespectful for no reason.
x2mirko
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany245 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5232
quake finals will be shown too? aweeeeeeesomee!!
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5233
On November 27 2011 04:16 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:13 KeksX wrote:
On November 27 2011 04:12 nokz88 wrote:
So, the SF4 fans tell me this game has lots of strategy and such. OK I believe you.

But why aren't these casters telling us about it? Their casting has no strategic depth whatsoever. They are shoutcasting, which is great, but there needs to be someone who can explain the finer points of the game to the ignorant audience like me, or I am not compelled to find out more about it. Shame.

You are mistaking strategy with tactics. Please look up these terms before you want to discuss it.

Whatever dude, they are talking none of it. And your attitude isn't helping either

It does help because there is not much strategy in the game. However, it is very tactical.
If you really want to learn about a game and not just ask "political" questions that you expect to be never answered, you should discuss on a solid basis.

I appreciate SSF4 as a very tactical, fast paced eSports. Whoever played fighting games knows that they actually take pretty much to master.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5234
On November 27 2011 04:15 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:14 Mekebra wrote:
On November 27 2011 04:11 1ManArmy wrote:
Does capcom support the game by bringing out new patches / nerfing , buffing certain characters?
Or are there just a few characters viable for competitive gaming?

They change things around from what I know.

And then when major changes happen, they release Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Advanced FX (Add words as you please)
But obviously they'll never achieve full balance, just as with any game.
However, the skill it takes and the reactions needed more than weigh up a lot of the balancing as, simply put, there aren't enough factors to outweigh imba skills.


Starcraft: Broodwar !


LOL... please don't go there! quick edit your post!
banelings
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5235
On November 27 2011 04:18 ImHuko wrote:
You don't have to like other games, but you don't have to shit on something you don't even understand. The players in SSF4 are equally as talented in their game as others are in SC2. In fact, a new player to SC2 has a better chance of beating a pro in SC2 than they do in a fighting game.


So true. I'm actually glad the muted the chat, there's a bunch of immature bitches in chat whining about something that's actually pretty awesome(that is, letting us watch a different game's finals during downtime).
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5236
I predict 387 drones killed overall in that series. And I predict 682 made.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Zeiasweigha
Profile Joined July 2011
57 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5237
1 million pylons LOL. WhiteRa really rocks!
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5238
Dota games (LoL, HoN, Dota2) are all very fun games, but tend to fail as e-Sports because the games last 50 minutes with only 15-25 kills in a game often times. I think a big error on the design of these games is that characters that become more powerful cannot die or else their team is very likely to lose, thus discouraging aggression and action. It's kind of like how sometimes two guys TvT turtle up and one battle decides it all, but there's no potential for "cheese aggression" to end the game early because the inner towers are very strong in the early game. Until a developer comes along and makes the games more action filled and shorter, it will struggle to bring in "outside money" that SC2 thrives quite heavily on.
Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5239
It was day[9] giving props to his brother : "test test tasteless"
♞ To obtain a bird's eyes is to turn a blizzard to a breeze ♞
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
November 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#5240
On November 27 2011 04:16 Radook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:14 Bru wrote:
Im a big quake fan, and love sc2, but just because of "esports" do i havto like all the other games? =)


No but no reason to be an a-hole when they show something you don't like.


Its not that the people who are upset that they stopped the SC2 tourney to show SSF4 are upset that SSF4 is considered an e-Sport it is that they want to watch SC2 not SSF4.

SC2 has a huge scene so tourney organizers seem to be lumping in finals of other games to increase viewers (ala LoL at IPL)
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
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