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VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1981
On November 26 2011 22:45 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:43 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:41 Jiddra wrote:
http://dashboard.dreamhack.se/

Looks like WoW and LoL are the kings of Dreamhack

MOBA crushing SC2 T_T


I doubt that's actually accurate or means anything significant when HON is having such a majority

MOBAs are also much more bandwidth intensive than starcraft, as the games take place mostly server side intead of P2P.
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
November 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1982
On November 26 2011 22:47 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:46 Poyo wrote:
Dude major's argument got destroyed hahaha


where are you guys listening to major?


Incontrol/cats streaming a skype convo with major and demuslim,watching the games its hilarious.
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 13:49:51
November 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1983
On November 26 2011 22:45 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:43 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:41 Jiddra wrote:
http://dashboard.dreamhack.se/

Looks like WoW and LoL are the kings of Dreamhack

MOBA crushing SC2 T_T


I doubt that's actually accurate or means anything significant when HON is having such a majority

DotA type games are extremely popular, much more than starcraft. That bandwidth useage means there are tons of ppl playing lol/hon and wow right? I'd certainly expect that, not that many people actually play lots of SC.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
November 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1984
On November 26 2011 22:46 AsnSensation wrote:
DRG always loses game 1 on prupose to win game 2+3


Sure he was behind a bit in 2. game but PUMA made huge misstake.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
November 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1985
On November 26 2011 22:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:46 zul wrote:
i feel like DRG hit the perfect timing to deal with the coming push. great play!


DRG did nothing but a-move into Puma who made a huge fucking blunder.

That loss was 100% pumas fault and not DRG being brilliant.


And it was also the randomness of SC2 where a wrong move can make you lose a game you played very well
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1986
lol finally Naama got a disadvantage for pulling his scvs
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 13:49:11
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1987
On November 26 2011 22:47 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:46 zul wrote:
i feel like DRG hit the perfect timing to deal with the coming push. great play!


DRG did nothing but a-move into Puma who made a huge fucking blunder.

That loss was 100% pumas fault and not DRG being brilliant.

DRG would have won that battle even if he was sieged. He had a superior unit comp.


At the very worst they would of traded, but then they would of been on equal bases... oh well
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1988
On November 26 2011 22:48 ThaZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:45 iky43210 wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:43 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:41 Jiddra wrote:
http://dashboard.dreamhack.se/

Looks like WoW and LoL are the kings of Dreamhack

MOBA crushing SC2 T_T


I doubt that's actually accurate or means anything significant when HON is having such a majority

If that graph is supposed to be showing proportions, and sc2 was getting 50k on one stream, that's implying WoW was getting a million viewers lol. I kinda doubt that.


I think it is what people are playing at the LAN.
I am not young enough to know everything.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1989
On November 26 2011 22:47 nvrs wrote:
so much for mech being viable, if caught unsieged = instant death, and you have to unsiege to move out...


Thats why you have hellions for scouting, or scans. You either use mules for helions or you use scans.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1990
On November 26 2011 22:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:46 zul wrote:
i feel like DRG hit the perfect timing to deal with the coming push. great play!


DRG did nothing but a-move into Puma who made a huge fucking blunder.

That loss was 100% pumas fault and not DRG being brilliant.

Puma's army looked stupid small because he had 80 scvs. I don't think he'd have won against DRG even if he was sieged

you underestimate the power of sieged tanks my friend.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1991
Only 1 barrack. Hope we can still get a macro long game.
snakzz
Profile Joined November 2010
103 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1992
Man I wanna see nightend win this...
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1993
On November 26 2011 22:49 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 Tachion wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:46 zul wrote:
i feel like DRG hit the perfect timing to deal with the coming push. great play!


DRG did nothing but a-move into Puma who made a huge fucking blunder.

That loss was 100% pumas fault and not DRG being brilliant.

DRG would have won that battle even if he was sieged. He had a superior unit comp.


At the very worst they would of traded, but then they would of been on equal bases... oh well

Yeah, but then DRG remaxes on mutas while Pumas making thors really slowly and has no turrets up at the 4th location.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
November 26 2011 13:49 GMT
#1994
On November 26 2011 22:49 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:48 ThaZenith wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:45 iky43210 wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:43 Telcontar wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:41 Jiddra wrote:
http://dashboard.dreamhack.se/

Looks like WoW and LoL are the kings of Dreamhack

MOBA crushing SC2 T_T


I doubt that's actually accurate or means anything significant when HON is having such a majority

If that graph is supposed to be showing proportions, and sc2 was getting 50k on one stream, that's implying WoW was getting a million viewers lol. I kinda doubt that.


I think it is what people are playing at the LAN.


Don't underestimate the popularity of WoW in Sweden lol.
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 26 2011 13:50 GMT
#1995
On November 26 2011 22:47 AIOL! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:39 Eufouria wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:37 hifriend wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:24 Poopi wrote:
Wow Naama is so good :D.
He knows that protoss can't be beaten straight up thus does some shenanigans all-ins and end up winning.
Would be so cool of a story that the last dreamhack winter winner who faded away into non-paying teams / mediocrity trained hard in order to reclaim his title :D.
Gogo I'll be cheering for you

User was temp banned for this post.

I don't understand why this guy got temp banned. It's not really a balance complaint? I mean the sc2 matchups still fluctuate so much and it's pretty common for them to be tilted in such a way that all in's are the best way to consistently win games, so if he by 'straight up' means just macroing and going for the big engagements then there are definitely cases where that isn't a viable option in a matchup.

But that doesn't mean that the matchup is imbalanced, it could just mean that it has to be played in a different way than 'straight up'. That was definitely the case with ZvP a while back when the death ball colo/void play was destroying everything, and is arguably the case in current PvZ. In current TvP, I definitely feel more scared on my protoss favorite's behalf when I see the t go 1/1/1 or some other strong timing than seeing them macro up at the moment.

Its a fine post except where he says protoss can't be beaten straight up, which is a balance complaint and spoils what was a good post otherwise.


Again he directly quote this from the Naama interview... He doesn't need to get banned at all. Sometimes people guet banned so randomly that it threatens me ! seriously WE people from tl need to do something about that, it can't continue !


He should have pointed that out in his post, but yeah.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
November 26 2011 13:50 GMT
#1996
On November 26 2011 09:32 nihlon wrote:
This is without a doubt what will happen:

White-ra vs Naama
NightEnd vs Sase
DongRaeGu vs Naniwa
Puma vs Genius
Seiplo vs Huk
Sheth vs Hero
Nerchio vs Mana
Ret vs ToD

White-ra vs Sase
DongRaeGu vs Genius
Huk vs Sheth
Mana vs Ret

Sase vs DongRaeGu
Huk vs Ret

DongRaeGu vs Huk



Impressive picks :D
Woop Woop!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 26 2011 13:50 GMT
#1997
On November 26 2011 22:48 Poyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:46 Poyo wrote:
Dude major's argument got destroyed hahaha


where are you guys listening to major?


Incontrol/cats streaming a skype convo with major and demuslim,watching the games its hilarious.


LOL that's fucking awesome thanks
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 26 2011 13:50 GMT
#1998
On November 26 2011 22:47 AIOL! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:39 Eufouria wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:37 hifriend wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:24 Poopi wrote:
Wow Naama is so good :D.
He knows that protoss can't be beaten straight up thus does some shenanigans all-ins and end up winning.
Would be so cool of a story that the last dreamhack winter winner who faded away into non-paying teams / mediocrity trained hard in order to reclaim his title :D.
Gogo I'll be cheering for you

User was temp banned for this post.

I don't understand why this guy got temp banned. It's not really a balance complaint? I mean the sc2 matchups still fluctuate so much and it's pretty common for them to be tilted in such a way that all in's are the best way to consistently win games, so if he by 'straight up' means just macroing and going for the big engagements then there are definitely cases where that isn't a viable option in a matchup.

But that doesn't mean that the matchup is imbalanced, it could just mean that it has to be played in a different way than 'straight up'. That was definitely the case with ZvP a while back when the death ball colo/void play was destroying everything, and is arguably the case in current PvZ. In current TvP, I definitely feel more scared on my protoss favorite's behalf when I see the t go 1/1/1 or some other strong timing than seeing them macro up at the moment.

Its a fine post except where he says protoss can't be beaten straight up, which is a balance complaint and spoils what was a good post otherwise.


Again he directly quote this from the Naama interview... He doesn't need to get banned at all. Sometimes people guet banned so randomly that it threatens me ! seriously WE people from tl need to do something about that, it can't continue !


It's not a random ban at all.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 26 2011 13:50 GMT
#1999
On November 26 2011 22:49 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:46 zul wrote:
i feel like DRG hit the perfect timing to deal with the coming push. great play!


DRG did nothing but a-move into Puma who made a huge fucking blunder.

That loss was 100% pumas fault and not DRG being brilliant.

Puma's army looked stupid small because he had 80 scvs. I don't think he'd have won against DRG even if he was sieged

you underestimate the power of sieged tanks my friend.

You underestimate creep
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 26 2011 13:50 GMT
#2000
Sigh all im getting is endless adverts into "Dreamhack Logo"
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
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