On November 24 2011 22:05 hugman wrote:
Dimaga, White_Ra, ThorZaIN, SaSe, Naniwa, MaNa, Nerchio, Stephano, Socke, Kas all > Goody
So no, he's not top10 EU

Grubby, Beasty,, Demuslim?
Edit: TLO, Jinro, Haypro ofc!

Spuick

Norway357 Posts

November 24 2011 13:06 GMT

#843

The crowd isn't very big yet since it's still quite early friday and school/work has not ended yet. Give it some time for it to buildup :D

Spuick

Norway357 Posts

November 24 2011 13:07 GMT

#844

On November 24 2011 22:06 Tarotis wrote:

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Grubby, Beasty,, Demuslim?

Nevermind brainfart.

rebdomine

6040 Posts

November 24 2011 13:07 GMT

#845

Go go SaSe!

Swiv

Germany3674 Posts

November 24 2011 13:08 GMT

#846

he just wanted to mention 10 > Goody

rebdomine

6040 Posts

November 24 2011 13:08 GMT

#847

Why does the overlay read MYMSaSe?

Zeon0

Austria2995 Posts

November 24 2011 13:08 GMT

#848

On November 24 2011 22:06 Tarotis wrote:

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Grubby, Beasty,, Demuslim?
Edit: TLO, Jinro, Haypro ofc!

ret?

dont list players without really thinking about it^^

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

November 24 2011 13:08 GMT

#849

Has Sase's PvZ improved a lot since he went to Korea? It's his weakest MU right?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 24 2011 13:08 GMT

#850

Orly taking 2nd spot. Belgium representing!

gruff

Sweden2276 Posts

November 24 2011 13:09 GMT

#851

On November 24 2011 22:06 Spuick wrote:
The crowd isn't very big yet since it's still quite early friday and school/work has not ended yet. Give it some time for it to buildup :D

It's thursday.

Also Someone said earlier in the thread that it's not fully open to the public until 15.00 cet (I haven't checked if that's the case).

Coffins

Canada85 Posts

November 24 2011 13:09 GMT

#852

need the sase cheer cannon in the crowd =[

Carush

United States356 Posts

November 24 2011 13:09 GMT

#853

On November 24 2011 22:04 Gin-san wrote:
Just tuned in. Sorry if it has been asked so far, but is there a possibility to open all 3 streams in 1 window, like the old teevox MLG site?

click the open in a window button and just do what i do
http://imageshack.us/f/195/70372711.png/

Grettin

42381 Posts

November 24 2011 13:09 GMT

#854

Day9 stream lagging a bit at times?

stonetalon

Netherlands482 Posts

November 24 2011 13:10 GMT

#855

On November 24 2011 22:08 Koshi wrote:
Orly taking 2nd spot. Belgium representing!

grubby and ret>orly! :D

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

November 24 2011 13:11 GMT

#856

On November 24 2011 22:09 Grettin wrote:
Day9 stream lagging a bit at times?

It stutters every now and then for me but nothing really serious

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

November 24 2011 13:11 GMT

#857

On November 24 2011 22:08 rebdomine wrote:
Why does the overlay read MYMSaSe?

Because that's Sase's EU account.

rebdomine

6040 Posts

November 24 2011 13:11 GMT

#858

On November 24 2011 22:09 Grettin wrote:
Day9 stream lagging a bit at times?

Yeah. I am having the same thing happen.

MrCon

France29748 Posts

November 24 2011 13:12 GMT

#859

On November 24 2011 22:05 TheRidd wrote:

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On November 24 2011 21:55 MrCon wrote:

On November 24 2011 21:50 february wrote:

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On November 24 2011 21:45 february wrote:

On November 24 2011 21:39 SinTio wrote:

On November 24 2011 21:31 february wrote:

On November 24 2011 21:28 KinQuh wrote:

On November 24 2011 21:27 february wrote:

On November 24 2011 21:23 Phenrock wrote:
Let me make a comparison with other sports such as football (soccer). There are teams that play negatively too. It's a legitimate tactic, so if a team wants to only defend and then counter attack, it's their choice to do so. Much the same with Goody. It's not entertaining for some, can be entertaining for others.

The point is to win.

Unless you make extra rules to promote more aggresive play, you can't fault what Goody is doing. If you don't like Goody's play, simply don't watch, there are plenty of other games on.

With regards to better players, well that's down to the players. If Goody really isn't that good of a player, why does he keep winning then? We're no where near the perfect player yet, and I'm not sure if we'll get one anytime soon.

He'll win with poor strategies as long as the metagame allows. I don't believe he has the ability to become a top-level progamer by committing himself so heavily to one style because his handspeed limits him so heavily. Has he really won anything against the best there is?

Yeah, if he proves me wrong, great, I look forward to his games. But I think it's more likely that his rote macro turtle style sees him fall off the scene completely.

I dont believe you have clue what you are talking about.If you are saying that GoOdy is bad then what NA is? Because you have like Slush and incontrol that are hanging in MLG without winning a game.

Slush is a very flexible player and has put up decent results in competition. Incontrol has struggled for a very long time. My point is that players are going to have to get better or they will be left behind by more talented players. I don't think Goody is a talented player given the way he has played for over a year. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.

It's not difficult to understand. Actually I'm pretty sure everybody here knew that already. But your first post

I don't mean to be a dick, but players like really Goody need to get better or just fade away. The fact that he was able to stay in the game that long with absolutely zero thought or talent is devaluating SC2 progaming as a whole. Players like that should not exist after a year of really impressive SC2 development and we should expect more from progamers at this point.

didn't sound like "He will fade away in future" but more like "He should be gone right now and never come back. He's hurting ESPORTS".

Yeah, a bit extreme. But after seeing such great games at MLG and other tournaments I've been really excited about SC2's development. And then I have to watch a ridiculous hour long game between him and Mana where he effectively dead at the 20 minute mark. I don't think that kind of shit should be casted by the best in the business as a top level game of Starcraft 2, you know?

The first rounds of the open bracket in MLG wasn't exactly brilliant games either. If you want to see higher level games, just cherry pick the ones that are played today or what until friday/saturday to watch.

Of course they weren't dude, it's the first round of the open bracket where anyone can play. There is massive potential for improvement for every single SC2 progamer out there, even the best of the best, it's only been a year. At the same time, I think a year is enough to flesh out your play and become a well rounded progamer. Is Goody well rounded? Can anybody really argue that he is? And if he's so one-dimensional, how does his future look anything but bleak?

GoOdy

Is that showing us he has potential or how well "rounded" he is (i think both).
Sry for being a jerk, but that was my first thought

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Well, it's showing that he's pretty good =) He has 6 pages of accomplishments (more than anyone else I think ?) and a very decent winrate over a big sample size.

Coolhwip

Sweden1381 Posts

November 24 2011 13:12 GMT

#860

On November 24 2011 22:06 Spuick wrote:
The crowd isn't very big yet since it's still quite early friday and school/work has not ended yet. Give it some time for it to buildup :D

Its actually thursday even.