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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:11 Tabbris wrote: Reddit Over reacting again -.- Reddit cracks me up. They take affronts to their favorite players sooooo seriously. It's like "How DARE you say bad things about Nestea!!! We're like the bestest friends evar even though we've never met!!" I wonder if Naniwa needs a rivalry to play his best? | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:54 Fishriot wrote: You realize that if a bunch of native English speakers are confused by the wording on your site, that someone who has English as a second language may also be confused? Trying to place blame on Naniwa for this issue is pathetic. It clearly states "change log". There is no confusion over wording, only people trying to bend the page to suit their argument and illiterates. | ||
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Swampsteel
United States94 Posts
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Fandango
291 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:52 zaii wrote: Also MLGAdam is Senior Vice President, League Operations and Production, If you can't trust someone like him then the league is fucked. You guys are so cute and naive, doing exactly what they counted on, who would ever believe the tarnished progamer from sweden over the clean cut american capitalist heroes of MLG? What possible reason could a higher up in an organisation that runs tournaments which have had significant administration issues over the years (including in the SC2 era with incidents like the white-ra scheduling and thorzain's various issues), have for trying to downplay any mistakes the administration staff have made? But the jig is up, the cat has left the caboodle and the horse has bolted, we all know the truth now and the only way to stop them from their hostile takeover of sweden is to publically undermine them in teamliquid threads. | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:56 awwnuts07 wrote: Reddit cracks me up. They take affronts to their favorite players sooooo seriously. It's like "How DARE you say bad things about Nestea!!! We're like the bestest friends evar even though we've never met!!" I wonder if Naniwa needs a rivalry to play his best? Right, if someone implies that Naniwa, confirmed asshole from all his former team mates and parents, is using "you're an idiot" in an assholish manner, you're justified in saying that that someone is dead wrong and should never dare to slander Naniwa, but if someone says "hey, calling Nestea an idiot isn't cool" we're obviously blind fanboys. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:54 Fishriot wrote: You realize that if a bunch of native English speakers are confused by the wording on your site, that someone who has English as a second language may also be confused? Trying to place blame on Naniwa for this issue is pathetic. How is it hard? You go to the MLG website, click procircuit then select providence from the competitions drop down. You then get a side bar where you select starcraft ii as the game and then maps and settings where it states no changes have been made from orlando and a link showing you the map settings from orlando. it really, REALLY isn't hard and I'm shocked by the number of people in this thread that can't understand this. tens of tournaments are organised every week with specific map settings and players take it upon themselves to know what they are doing even if the top prize is $50 so saying that neither naniwa or complexity could be bothered to check in a $50k tournament is unreal | ||
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lipebra
Brazil130 Posts
1- Thanks MLG for go out and say their version of it. No one wants the tornament to be a huge sucess more than they want. 2- Now they learn that with 150.000 on the line people do whatever to win, include some not fair things. Next MLG, no replays watching and no people in the booth..... i thing that basics. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:59 Fandango wrote: You guys are so cute and naive, doing exactly what they counted on, who would ever believe the tarnished progamer from sweden over the clean cut american capitalist heroes of MLG? What possible reason could a higher up in an organisation that runs tournaments which have had significant administration issues over the years (including in the SC2 era with incidents like the white-ra scheduling and thorzain's various issues), have for trying to downplay any mistakes the administration staff have made? But the jig is up, the cat has left the caboodle and the horse has bolted, we all know the truth now and the only way to stop them from their hostile takeover of sweden is to publically undermine them in teamliquid threads. lmao, I'll have whatever you're smoking plz. | ||
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daliLlama
Sweden25 Posts
And for people saying that it isnt hard to read, sure i agree. Then again i have a pretty good grasp of the english language, are you sure everyone does? And if you have to ask if they realize its a change log; Then there probably is potential for confusion there. Dont you think MLG_Adam? Also, why are players hosting the maps at all? | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:59 Fandango wrote: You guys are so cute and naive, doing exactly what they counted on, who would ever believe the tarnished progamer from sweden over the clean cut american capitalist heroes of MLG? What possible reason could a higher up in an organisation that runs tournaments which have had significant administration issues over the years (including in the SC2 era with incidents like the white-ra scheduling and thorzain's various issues), have for trying to downplay any mistakes the administration staff have made. But the jig is up, the cat has left the caboodle and the horse has bolted, we all know the truth now and the only way to stop them from their hostile takeover of sweden is to publically undermine them in teamliquid threads. I know, I mean, how DARE we trust the trustworthy people, and not the guy who stirs up so much shit no one can stand them on his team. Though, why would I expect logic from someone who insults MLG with "american capitalist"? Shouldn't you be down at the Occupy Starbucks movement, Che? | ||
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ikona
Poland47 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:06 MLG_Adam wrote: The admin didn't tell him that, I know because I was standing right there. Why wouldn't a player playing in a National Championship know where the spawns were? He chose the map, it is his responsibility to know the intricacies involved. There is responsibility on the players to know the settings they are competing on. The maps were not published the day of the event. I'm going to play devils advocate here because i took the time to look it up on your website when the controversy hit. And to be honest i was quite amazed how inconclusive rules on this page are: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/mlg/mlg-starcraft-2-map-pool Either there is something hard to understand there or it leaves room to 2 different interpretations. Blizzard spawns or cross pos only. Also i believe its MLG's resposibility to have clear and easy to follow ruleset which is displayed somewhere for everyone to see. So while its obvious Naniwa has some issues to work out, i think you should tone down your response which might be viewed as a bit arrogant. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:59 Fandango wrote: You guys are so cute and naive, doing exactly what they counted on, who would ever believe the tarnished progamer from sweden over the clean cut american capitalist heroes of MLG? What possible reason could a higher up in an organisation that runs tournaments which have had significant administration issues over the years (including in the SC2 era with incidents like the white-ra scheduling and thorzain's various issues), have for trying to downplay any mistakes the administration staff have made? But the jig is up, the cat has left the caboodle and the horse has bolted, we all know the truth now and the only way to stop them from their hostile takeover of sweden is to publically undermine them in teamliquid threads. That, or you're taking an incident that has already been resolved and trying to morph it into some weird, boundless conspiracy theory. What the fuck kind of point are you trying to make with that "clean cut American capitalist heroes" statement, anyway? All you're doing is trying your best to find a bad guy responsible for an issue that can be chalked up to nothing more than miscommunication. Get your conspiratorial bullshit out of the thread. Yeah, this whole thing was a mistake, but mistakes happen, especially in huge tournaments like MLG. That doesn't mean there's a villain here. None of us are interested in your Chicken Little fantasies. | ||
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
On November 21 2011 01:12 aderum wrote: Hmm if you look at the LR-thread here on TL its just as bad. So dont just blame reddit for this. I was at the live event, and a lot of people were confused/upset that he looked at the replay between matches too. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On November 21 2011 02:07 lolsixtynine wrote: I was at the live event, and a lot of people were confused/upset that he looked at the replay between matches too. Damn Reddit and the live audience for being so biased. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
On November 21 2011 02:06 ikona wrote: I'm going to play devils advocate here because i took the time to look it up on your website when the controversy hit. And to be honest i was quite amazed how inconclusive rules on this page are: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/mlg/mlg-starcraft-2-map-pool Either there is something hard to understand there or it leaves room to 2 different interpretations. Blizzard spawns or cross pos only. Also i believe its MLG's resposibility to have clear and easy to follow ruleset which is displayed somewhere for everyone to see. So while its obvious Naniwa has some issues to work out, i think you should tone down your response which might be viewed as a bit arrogant. That is the change log. The providence map pools are on the bar, right next to the log. This is like going to wikipedia, looking at the page furthest down the history page and complaining that Pluto is still a planet. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
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DoLookMoreLike
155 Posts
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Fandango
291 Posts
On November 21 2011 02:07 Aeres wrote: That, or you're taking an incident that has already been resolved and trying to morph it into some weird, boundless conspiracy theory. What the fuck kind of point are you trying to make with that "clean cut American capitalist heroes" statement, anyway? All you're doing is trying your best to find a bad guy responsible for an issue that can be chalked up to nothing more than miscommunication. Get your conspiratorial bullshit out of the thread. Yeah, this whole thing was a mistake, but mistakes happen, especially in huge tournaments like MLG. That doesn't mean there's a villain here. None of us are interested in your Chicken Little fantasies. Are you that guy at the party who never wants to dance or play any (non-video) games? Like the one who when people are talking about music has to chime in about how band X is just a poor imitation of band Y? Do you judge other people for enjoying things that you find below you and chastise them for it? Well I am. | ||
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daliLlama
Sweden25 Posts
If you read the change log you understand that its a change log, would still be simpler and more clear if it wasnt a change log but just the current versions of the maps. So why not do that? Also why not rename the maps with some sort of simple tag that lets you know what kind of spawns are open? Do everything to prevent missunderstandings and mistakes like these. They ARE killing esports you know. | ||
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