• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:02
CEST 21:02
KST 04:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced39BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
REAL ILLUMINATI AGENT 0765750853,0705037305 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced 2025 Season 2 Ladder map pool Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 722 users

MLG Statement on Naniwa vs. Nestea - Page 6

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 10 Next All
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 20 2011 17:17 GMT
#101
Naniwa is arrogant and BM right up there with, and probably beyond IdrA. It doesn't completely shape my perception of him but it contributes a lot. This instance was only a small piece, we've known for a long time how he is.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
November 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#102
On November 21 2011 02:17 daliLlama wrote:
If option 1 is easy and option 2 is easier. Why stick with option 1?

If you read the change log you understand that its a change log, would still be simpler and more clear if it wasnt a change log but just the current versions of the maps. So why not do that? Also why not rename the maps with some sort of simple tag that lets you know what kind of spawns are open?

Do everything to prevent missunderstandings and mistakes like these. They ARE killing esports you know.

Or they could go the right page. The one titled "MLG Providence map pool."
Going to the right place is pretty clear and simple.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
November 20 2011 17:21 GMT
#103
Go Naniwa! Win this joke tournaments like npnp, GO SWEDEN! MLG Obviously anti sweden and anti naniwa shut the haters down nani yeeyeyyeye.

WHO'S NESTEA?!? SOME KOREAN OLD GEEZER NNPNP NANI AND SWEDEN HERE TO STOP HIM YEH BOIIIIIIII GG


EZPZ. Even InControl liked your play on Shakuras mothafucking INCONTROL liked your game, hell yeah you show em Nani!
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
Crig
Profile Joined November 2011
France18 Posts
November 20 2011 17:21 GMT
#104
Of course there was no cheating
http://crig.tumblr.com/
daliLlama
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden25 Posts
November 20 2011 17:21 GMT
#105
Apparently not, since they didnt?

Again, why not make it as simple as possible? Are you actually disagreeing with that statement?
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
November 20 2011 17:23 GMT
#106
MLG's plans of impending invasion of Sweden have been thoroughly spoiled.

Thanks a lot Reddit.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
November 20 2011 17:23 GMT
#107
On November 21 2011 02:21 Kentakky wrote:
Go Naniwa! Win this joke tournaments like npnp, GO SWEDEN! MLG Obviously anti sweden and anti naniwa shut the haters down nani yeeyeyyeye.

WHO'S NESTEA?!? SOME KOREAN OLD GEEZER NNPNP NANI AND SWEDEN HERE TO STOP HIM YEH BOIIIIIIII GG


EZPZ. Even InControl liked your play on Shakuras mothafucking INCONTROL liked your game, hell yeah you show em Nani!

Jesus, I can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely do have a victims complex.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
November 20 2011 17:24 GMT
#108
On November 21 2011 01:09 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 01:00 MLG_Adam wrote:
Moving forward, we will look at rules outlawing any replay views on a tournament PC


Why? No tournament I know of has any rules against this. I have got absolutely no idea why people assumed MLG did.

This has never been an issue before, don't go changing your rules just because /r/starcraft is an idiotic bandwagon.


GSL and IPL?
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 20 2011 17:25 GMT
#109
On November 21 2011 02:21 daliLlama wrote:
Apparently not, since they didnt?

Again, why not make it as simple as possible? Are you actually disagreeing with that statement?


It's pretty obvious unless you have no grasp of the english language, I doubt MLG felt the need to change it as no one other than Naniwa has had a problem up until now.

As I stated there are loads of tournaments every week, many with far lower prize pools and far harder to understand map rules which are followed correctly. The fact that between them Naniwa and Complexity can't read a webpage hen it comes to a $50k tournament is... poor
@followMVT
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
November 20 2011 17:25 GMT
#110
On November 21 2011 02:21 daliLlama wrote:
Apparently not, since they didnt?

Again, why not make it as simple as possible? Are you actually disagreeing with that statement?

If you read a map wrong you may blame the map for not being simple enough.
If you read the wrong, clearly titled, map, well that's your own fault.
daliLlama
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden25 Posts
November 20 2011 17:26 GMT
#111
On November 21 2011 02:23 MLG_Adam wrote:
MLG's plans of impending invasion of Sweden have been thoroughly spoiled.

Thanks a lot Reddit.


I for one would welcome our new MLG overlords.

But seriously, you do see how some people have been confused by the change log business? So maybe it isnt that clear and might need some change?
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:27:06
November 20 2011 17:26 GMT
#112
On November 21 2011 02:23 MLG_Adam wrote:
MLG's plans of impending invasion of Sweden have been thoroughly spoiled.

Thanks a lot Reddit.


Hahaha, at least MLG Stockholm is slightly easier for me to attend next year
@followMVT
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
November 20 2011 17:28 GMT
#113
On November 21 2011 02:26 daliLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 02:23 MLG_Adam wrote:
MLG's plans of impending invasion of Sweden have been thoroughly spoiled.

Thanks a lot Reddit.


I for one would welcome our new MLG overlords.

But seriously, you do see how some people have been confused by the change log business? So maybe it isnt that clear and might need some change?


How do people who play a computer game not know what a changelog is?
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
November 20 2011 17:29 GMT
#114
On November 21 2011 02:26 daliLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 02:23 MLG_Adam wrote:
MLG's plans of impending invasion of Sweden have been thoroughly spoiled.

Thanks a lot Reddit.


I for one would welcome our new MLG overlords.



Our regime will be harsh, but fair.

Chairs shall be outlawed...unless you're a VIP or media.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
daliLlama
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden25 Posts
November 20 2011 17:29 GMT
#115
I still dont understand your point of view; If you CAN make something simpler to prevent mistakes, why not do it?

And i would think that the larger the tournament and prize pool, the more clear things ought to be?
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
November 20 2011 17:30 GMT
#116
On November 21 2011 02:29 daliLlama wrote:
I still dont understand your point of view; If you CAN make something simpler to prevent mistakes, why not do it?

And i would think that the larger the tournament and prize pool, the more clear things ought to be?

Because it doesn't need to be simplified, and the changelog page is actually rather important?
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
November 20 2011 17:31 GMT
#117
It's been embarrassing to be a part of the community the past 24 hours, as there apparently are people who will do anything to create behind the scenes drama. I think MLG and other tournaments should consider not advertising to participate in Reddit "discussion", considering what their "community" brings to the table is nothing but stupidity that fosters more stupidity. If what MLG wants is to create new fans, directing them to Reddit where the majority seemingly have an incredible low understanding of the game and a incredible lust for TMZ-style drama is not optimal, I imagine.
For anyone who doesn't struggle keeping his saliva contained in his mouth it was glaringly obvious what naniwa meant in the idiot-interview, that the comment was directed towards nesteas build and not the person himself, but due to some negative Reddit posts and a community filled with ill informed drama mongers, this suddenly was a PR problem for coL and something MLG has to spend time elaborating on instead of it just being handled behind the scenes as it should, considering it was a non-issue at best. I feel shit like this takes a lot away from an otherwise cool tournament.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#118
On November 21 2011 02:29 daliLlama wrote:
I still dont understand your point of view; If you CAN make something simpler to prevent mistakes, why not do it?

And i would think that the larger the tournament and prize pool, the more clear things ought to be?


Because literally NO ONE had a problem understanding that webapge until naniwa so they saw no need to change it as every other competitor in every other MLG had managed to understand the rules? Why would they change the webpage from yesterday to today?

They might change it before the first 2012 event, let's call it naniwa's law
@followMVT
daliLlama
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden25 Posts
November 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#119
Ok, i guess we just dont se things the same way and there isnt much we can do about that i guess so GG.

Why is the change log importat though?
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
November 20 2011 17:34 GMT
#120
On November 21 2011 02:31 vilg wrote:
It's been embarrassing to be a part of the community the past 24 hours, as there apparently are people who will do anything to create behind the scenes drama. I think MLG and other tournaments should consider not advertising to participate in Reddit "discussion", considering what their "community" brings to the table is nothing but stupidity that fosters more stupidity. If what MLG wants is to create new fans, directing them to Reddit where the majority seemingly have an incredible low understanding of the game and a incredible lust for TMZ-style drama is not optimal, I imagine.
For anyone who doesn't struggle keeping his saliva contained in his mouth it was glaringly obvious what naniwa meant in the idiot-interview, that the comment was directed towards nesteas build and not the person himself, but due to some negative Reddit posts and a community filled with ill informed drama mongers, this suddenly was a PR problem for coL and something MLG has to spend time elaborating on instead of it just being handled behind the scenes as it should, considering it was a non-issue at best. I feel shit like this takes a lot away from an otherwise cool tournament.

From a guy who BM'd his way out of a dozen teams and his own household, "but he's just an idiot" can be taken as insulting rather easily.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Playoffs Day 1
Harstem vs ArTLIVE!
WardiTV919
TKL 276
IndyStarCraft 211
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 276
IndyStarCraft 211
UpATreeSC 164
JuggernautJason96
BRAT_OK 84
Creator 70
MindelVK 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26070
ggaemo 689
firebathero 485
Larva 471
Aegong 52
zelot 36
Stormgate
RushiSC53
Dota 2
qojqva4121
League of Legends
Grubby2513
Counter-Strike
fl0m3613
sgares259
flusha198
byalli176
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu360
Other Games
gofns9770
Beastyqt740
B2W.Neo390
shahzam182
QueenE57
Trikslyr52
PPMD8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 25 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 209
• StrangeGG 37
• davetesta36
• Reevou 6
• LUISG 4
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• Migwel
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 17
• 80smullet 16
• blackmanpl 9
• FirePhoenix5
• Michael_bg 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21014
League of Legends
• Nemesis4788
• TFBlade684
Other Games
• imaqtpie1120
• Shiphtur206
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
7h 58m
CranKy Ducklings
14h 58m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
16h 58m
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
20h 58m
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
ByuN vs TBD
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 14h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 18h
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 20h
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.