• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:56
CEST 16:56
KST 23:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun11[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
Data needed Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) ASL21 General Discussion [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2525 users

MLG Providence Day 3 Live Report Thread - Page 584

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 582 583 584 585 586 890 Next
Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11661
On November 21 2011 08:25 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:21 dsousa wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:17 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:13 dsousa wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:06 Tsubbi wrote:
naniwa:

2:1 mvp
2:1 nestea
2:1 nestea
2:1 huk
2:0 drg


So crazy. I think its plausible that Naniwa is the best player in the world right now, I don't know what else to conclude from these results.

One tourney doesn't make you the best player?


I know, but beating the best players in the world head to head does. Its just so rare that 1 player faces and beats all of them in the same tourney run.

It's one thing to win a tourney while getting a great lineup, but Naniwa has beaten the best players in the world each of the past 3 days.

Who would you pick to beat him right now? Nestea? MVP? DRG? MMA? MC? Huk? Leenock? Taeja?







FXOLucky and Check



Lol, well done well done.

I suspect there is something about the GSL that just gets to nani and prevents him from playing to the best of his ability
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37074 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11662
Leenock..... he needs to win 4 games > DRG..... that's not going to be ez.....

While DRG only need 2 games..... that's going to be ez

BUUUUUUUUT

DRG needs 4 games against Naniwa

While Leenock only needs 2 against Naniwa

Am I right?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11663
On November 21 2011 08:26 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:25 Zalithian wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:24 Giriath wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.


You do realize they have local tournaments we don't get to see? Also a shit ton of players we don't get to see.


If the Korean scene is so huge for SC2, why do the Korean teams need foreign money?

They do right now...Flash is rumoured to be worth $400k. Once (if) BW switches over fully to SC2, just wait, they won't need foreign money.


On another note, MLGs are also a lot of fun. They want to travel to new and exciting places man. There's a lot more to it.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11664
"GOT 99 PROBLEMS BUT A TERRAN AINT ONE!"
C r u m b l i n g
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11665
On November 21 2011 08:26 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:21 Cele wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:17 Santiago4ever wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:12 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:09 Fukinkou wrote:
Always so akward...
Why? :_S


Not trying to be racist at all here, but I have several friends from Stockholm and they all kinda act like that. Theyre great dudes but they come off as very weird/awkward until you get to know them(some even after you know them). From my experience at least, Swedes like Jinro seem to be the minority.


Aye, we're an awkward country with awkward people. It's got to do with Jante-lagen, get one of your swedish friends to explain that one to you >.>


Haha will do. The only time i was ever in Sweden i was too young to remember anything about it, but my friends always tell me things that are kinda funny(to me at least). I thought it was hilarious that my friend was studying to become a "Landmeister"(sp?) and had classes with the prince of sweden.


Guys a friend on mine is swedish, and he´s kinda the most charismatic and outgoing person i know. Dont generalize this


oh idd, Naniwa is in no way the typical swede :p quite the opposite imo. but hey, I cant really be objective now can I.


Naniwa isn't typical, no, but there's a certain northern reserved disposition that's common all throughout Northern Europe.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11666
the saddest wave
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11667
On November 21 2011 08:25 Zalithian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:24 Giriath wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.


You do realize they have local tournaments we don't get to see? Also a shit ton of players we don't get to see.


If the Korean scene is so huge for SC2, why do the Korean teams need foreign money?


I don't know, why does Microsoft or Exxon Mobile need money? They don't, but they want more.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11668
On November 21 2011 08:24 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.


You do realize they have local tournaments we don't get to see? Also a shit ton of players we don't get to see.


That is 100% incorrect. The only other tournaments that are on a regular basis are the Korean Weekly and the FXO events. Korea is starved for tournaments.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11669
Hm. Progamers do need to do one more thing to really boost eSports. Whether you're shy, or antisocial, or just a boss, take a note from NASCAR - get your sponsor's name(s) into the conversation every possible way every time. That's what they are really giving you the money for. Other than that, I love the trash talk (genteel as it is), the drama, and even the stoic.

Also, Naniwa will win... because he's just ballertoss.

So, will there be a "Best Signs of the Stream" thread? Some of them are bad, but some (like Kerrigan look alike contest) are pretty funny.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Jippie
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden40 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11670
MVP went for very quick two-base Collosus, and MVP was able to get a great surround with his Bio to take the game.
Fail annuncment from mlg =) or maybe mvp fins out to use collosus with terran
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11671
On November 21 2011 08:26 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:17 wei2coolman wrote:
I know why leenock is so good.

its cause he's a cute little panda!

[image loading]



Leah will soon have this picture hanging above her bed, don't tell Drewbie
xiZE
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden60 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11672
I have to go to work in 7 hours, but there is a swede in the final so I cannot miss this! :D gonna be awesome!
Train hard, win easy!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 23:28:25
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11673
On November 21 2011 08:25 Zalithian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:24 Giriath wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.


You do realize they have local tournaments we don't get to see? Also a shit ton of players we don't get to see.


If the Korean scene is so huge for SC2, why do the Korean teams need foreign money?


They have much bigger teams, team houses and generally higher costs.*

*My subjective view of what I've seen.

Banelings are too cute to blow up
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11674
On November 21 2011 08:26 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:24 SC2Phoenix wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:23 Jyvblamo wrote:
Hwanni is a class act.
This. Iam glad they hired him for MLG, he was always the best translator :D

Hwanni and Clutch have been the 2 non-players or commentators that have really made this event for me.


is there anything else than player and commentator?^^
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
November 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#11675
On November 21 2011 08:23 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:21 Redmark wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:17 fraktoasters wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:08 Corrupted wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Naniwa got this. Extended series fucking this up. Next 2 matches will sstart with 2-0...


Yep, it is as much a disgrace as it was when they announced they were keeping it for this year. Impressive when you intentionally ruin your own tournaments with your dumbass rules.


Doesn't matter. Normal double elimination rules already ruined the finals no matter what.

Because GSL finals have all been great and MLG finals have all been bad.

I'm against extended series, but only because I feel it doesn't make sense. How good a match is depends on a lot of things, not just format.


When one person has a big advantage over another, it tends to make the match bad. Just because almost all GSL finals have been ridiculously one sided isn't the format's fault.


I actually suspect letting the players pick the brackets has a lot to do with the one sided GSL finals.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#11676
On November 21 2011 08:27 Seeker wrote:
Leenock..... he needs to win 4 games > DRG..... that's not going to be ez.....

While DRG only need 2 games..... that's going to be ez

BUUUUUUUUT

DRG needs 4 games against Naniwa

While Leenock only needs 2 against Naniwa

Am I right?


Yeah you are correct. :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
November 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#11677
On November 21 2011 08:26 Salvarias wrote:
Hmm from this tournament it seems protoss hard counter zerg, and terran is still the one to be able to do something about protoss, also naniwa didn't get matched against terran at mlg, so people calling him best protoss when he basicly only had to abuse force field balance against zerg on two base, hmmm his good yes but meh.


He 2:1ed MVP (You know, the terran who got the furthest in providence?) in global invitational this friday. Also he 2:1ed HuK,
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#11678
On November 21 2011 08:27 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:25 Zalithian wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:24 Giriath wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.


You do realize they have local tournaments we don't get to see? Also a shit ton of players we don't get to see.


If the Korean scene is so huge for SC2, why do the Korean teams need foreign money?


Why are foreign teams willing to give them money?

Because they want the koreans to represent their tourney. Foreign tourneys need Koreans more than Koreans need foreign tourneys.

Yeah, the only reason MLG has this prize pool is because of the koreans. MLG got MUCH bigger in viewership after the korean invites.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
November 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#11679
On November 21 2011 08:25 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:21 dsousa wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:17 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:13 dsousa wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:06 Tsubbi wrote:
naniwa:

2:1 mvp
2:1 nestea
2:1 nestea
2:1 huk
2:0 drg


So crazy. I think its plausible that Naniwa is the best player in the world right now, I don't know what else to conclude from these results.

One tourney doesn't make you the best player?


I know, but beating the best players in the world head to head does. Its just so rare that 1 player faces and beats all of them in the same tourney run.

It's one thing to win a tourney while getting a great lineup, but Naniwa has beaten the best players in the world each of the past 3 days.

Who would you pick to beat him right now? Nestea? MVP? DRG? MMA? MC? Huk? Leenock? Taeja?







FXOLucky and Check



That was before the dawn of the Naniwa era. Ancient history.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
November 20 2011 23:28 GMT
#11680
Wake up and Haypro finally did what I've been expecting him to do forever. Although I predicted he'd win, but this is damned good.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Prev 1 582 583 584 585 586 890 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #246
WardiTV602
TKL 243
Liquipedia
INu's Battles
11:00
INu's Battles#15
SHIN vs ByuNLIVE!
IntoTheiNu 1037
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1485
TKL 243
Hui .191
trigger 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37740
Calm 5428
Sea 2376
Mini 665
Shuttle 480
firebathero 459
EffOrt 418
Hyuk 416
Light 384
BeSt 357
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 228
Leta 184
actioN 151
Hyun 119
Dewaltoss 114
hero 101
Killer 81
ToSsGirL 75
Sharp 70
Hm[arnc] 66
Pusan 66
[sc1f]eonzerg 55
Sea.KH 42
Free 39
yabsab 25
Barracks 20
scan(afreeca) 19
Rock 17
GoRush 17
zelot 16
910 15
Shine 13
IntoTheRainbow 12
SilentControl 10
Terrorterran 10
Sacsri 9
JulyZerg 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4872
qojqva1709
monkeys_forever281
syndereN208
Other Games
singsing2316
B2W.Neo1082
hiko834
DeMusliM382
crisheroes294
ArmadaUGS66
Rex38
QueenE37
Trikslyr12
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream73
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco3797
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4295
• TFBlade1522
Other Games
• WagamamaTV235
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
1h 4m
Replay Cast
9h 4m
Replay Cast
18h 4m
RSL Revival
19h 4m
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
20h 4m
IPSL
1d 1h
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
RSL Revival
1d 19h
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
IPSL
2 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
4 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
5 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
6 days
Escore
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-30
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.