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On November 21 2011 06:33 MorroW wrote: watching mvp makes me laff this guy is so underrated and underappricated
I don't understand this, he is without any doubt the best player in sc2 so far, 3 gsl wins+ 1 final + blizzcon + an MLG ... I can't understand how people don't recognise it >_<.
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On November 21 2011 06:32 K3Nyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:29 WhurreOdu wrote: Yeah, MC is always 2 base all-inning, only he does it ... MVP has allined a lot more in TvP and TvT on 1 base, yet everyone only remembers MC's allins. MC allin - damn cheeser! MVP allin - wow AWESOME timing attack! Sigh..
Totally agree.
Also there seems to be some trend where some people use "timing attack" as if it's a bad thing. Why? I mean, why would you -not- coordinate an attack with an important upgrade finishing, if you can? Is it more honorable to go "oh well stim finished i'll wait a minute or two then go" or something? This is ridiculous.
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On November 21 2011 06:34 Nate.F wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:32 mango_destroyer wrote:On November 21 2011 06:31 HowardRoark wrote: How come MVP doesn't have any fans? Being the best player in the world ought to count for something, and earn him some fans? If MKP or Huk would have been the best, they would have tons of fans. It is a bit weird, he is always well-spoken, doesn't cheat and don't cheese, he is pure talent, but still, as he said himself, he doesn't have many fans. Blind hate for terran because people think thats the reason why they suck. mkp is cuter than mvp huk is the foreign hope in gsl mvp is well, not as cute as mkp and not foreign. logical.
People like to root for the underdog, and MVP is ALWAYS the favorite. Plus his play is just solid, which isn't especially fun. MKP is fun to watch because he has famously good marine micro. MMA is a lot of fun to watch as well because his multitasking with drops is soooo good, which just creates really fun games.
MVP does everything well, but he usually just stomps people with nice clean play, which honestly... is not that entertaining. So it's way more fun to watch him lose. He's a nice guy and I don't think he really has many anti-fans, but it shouldn't be too surprising that he doesn't have many real fans either.
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Like others have been saying, I think MVP just didnt want to deal with a late game Protoss army as his TVP is his weakness. I mean this is a 50k tournament, you do what you can to win and really cant fault MVP for doing these early pushes in his weakest matchup -_-
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Nani probably hoping for MVP to beat Leenock, what with his PvZ weakness.
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On November 21 2011 06:36 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:35 DrivenBatty wrote: Classic MVP series. All-in after all-in, someone knock this guy out already so we can have good matches. He is as bad to watch as Hongun. Yea fast 3rd CC is about as all-in as you can get. throw in a double engi right there lovely <3
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My guess is: 1. Naniwa 2. MVP 3. DRG 4. Leenock
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On November 21 2011 06:35 n00b3rt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:34 Serpico wrote:On November 21 2011 06:33 Spaceneil8 wrote: Haypro wins the 7th/8th Place match with Idra by DQ. #MLG
Idra is mad LOL He almost never plays placement matches. Dont see how he's mad. 750$ for a single match is worth playing for. Either he had some urgent stuff to do right at that very moment or he's mad
Mad, maybe disappointed. He cares about winning tournaments, not $750
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On November 21 2011 06:34 Nate.F wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:32 mango_destroyer wrote:On November 21 2011 06:31 HowardRoark wrote: How come MVP doesn't have any fans? Being the best player in the world ought to count for something, and earn him some fans? If MKP or Huk would have been the best, they would have tons of fans. It is a bit weird, he is always well-spoken, doesn't cheat and don't cheese, he is pure talent, but still, as he said himself, he doesn't have many fans. Blind hate for terran because people think thats the reason why they suck. mkp is cuter than mvp huk is the foreign hope in gsl mvp is well, not as cute as mkp and not foreign. logical.
MKP always looks and acts like a girl.
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MVP just outclassed MC stop rotting this thread please
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On November 21 2011 06:35 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:34 Telcontar wrote:On November 21 2011 06:33 Spaceneil8 wrote: Haypro wins the 7th/8th Place match with Idra by DQ. #MLG
Idra is mad LOL I guess IdrA is rich enough not to care about the $750. For once, I think I'm with Idra on this one 
From which source is this?
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I have a question. Is the final going to be a horribly anticlimatic extended series with one guy 2-0 up?
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On November 21 2011 06:35 Slardar wrote: Take NASL as another example, this is all or nothing for 50G's.
Assuming you mean IEM, that was the finals in which Puma all-ined MC 2 of 3 games.
Sorry, timing push. Keep getting the two mixed up...
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On November 21 2011 06:36 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:34 jmbthirteen wrote:On November 21 2011 06:32 K3Nyy wrote:On November 21 2011 06:29 WhurreOdu wrote: Yeah, MC is always 2 base all-inning, only he does it ... MVP has allined a lot more in TvP and TvT on 1 base, yet everyone only remembers MC's allins. MC allin - damn cheeser! MVP allin - wow AWESOME timing attack! Sigh.. Its because mvp succeeds with a ton of builds while mc is known for winning with all ins and timing attacks. Not in TvP. MVP almost always goes for a timing attack (see his series vs Oz, now that was brutal T_T) in TvP, or else an incredibly greedy fast 3 bases.
Yes we all know MVP struggles more against P then against T/Z.
On the other hand MVP learned from the series where he lost 2-1 to MC. He adapted and won. Call it what you want, i call it the work of the GAME GENIE
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On November 21 2011 06:37 Jetaap wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:33 MorroW wrote: watching mvp makes me laff this guy is so underrated and underappricated I don't understand this, he is without any doubt the best player in sc2 so far, 3 gsl wins+ 1 final + blizzcon + an MLG ... I can't understand how people don't recognise it >_<.
I think it's because he's the favorite in everything he enters and people like rooting for the underdog :p
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MVP vs Leenock Open Bracket players fighting
MVP's path (notables)
Losira Rain Bomber MKP Hero Haypro MC
Leenock's path (notables)
Drewbie Oz Gatored Haypro Boxer Slush MMA Idra Huk
Much respect to both of them for wading through the open bracket and making it to top 4
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On November 21 2011 06:35 Caddy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 06:31 HowardRoark wrote: How come MVP doesn't have any fans? Being the best player in the world ought to count for something, and earn him some fans? If MKP or Huk would have been the best, they would have tons of fans. It is a bit weird, he is always well-spoken, doesn't cheat and don't cheese, he is pure talent, but still, as he said himself, he doesn't have many fans. He definitely has fans, judging by this thread alone, but there's maybe a bunch of reasons why he isn't the most popular with the fans. First of all, he is the best. He'll get huge respect for that, definitely, but people like underdogs. People also don't like to see the same person win everything. Secondly, he doesn't show emotion. I actually quite like that, because it's very professional and it means he can keep calm and not play on tilt. However, that lack of emotion doesn't translate well to fans. Fans like when you can see how much a win / loss means to a player. I think it's the same in any sport, really. I do think MVP has a huge amount of respect though. I'm a Protoss fanboy but I'll openly admit MVP is a fantastic player. You don't get that good by just being lucky.
I'd like to add, that Flash (the greatest RTS gamer in history) also went through the same things as MVP. During his reign, when no one could beat him, people were actually joking he might destroy e-sports because of how boring the scene had become. It's the same thing with MVP.
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You go "all in" at some point every game you play
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