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Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8421
MLG: Coming up on the Red stream!
NANIWA vs NESTEA: The Re-Killening

And immediately following that:
IDRA vs MC: The Gracken vs the Murlock

Go refill your drinks and get into pajamas- we're in for a long, glorious night.


MLG is loving these story lines playing out, how great is this. sick sick tournament!
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8422
* Stares at upper bracket* Every single one of those is a rematch/grudgematch from a previous mlg and/or another tournament this year. This tournament has nowhere to go but up with all this hype. * prays sunday's finals are not failtastic*
CocoPoofs
Profile Joined July 2011
36 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8423
Terrans when Toss complains about 1/1/1: it's an allin, stop playing greedy and expanding

Now look at all the hypocrisy when MVP loses to an allin while playing super greedy. He had 4 bunkers sure, but do 4 cannons help much against a 1/1/1?
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8424
On November 20 2011 10:29 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:29 Jomppa wrote:
"MLG:
Coming up on the Red stream!
NANIWA vs NESTEA: The Re-Killening

And immediately following that:
IDRA vs MC: The Gracken vs the Murlock

Go refill your drinks and get into pajamas- we're in for a long, glorious night."


OH MY GOD. I actually jizzed my pants reading that. And it's 2.30am here already.

We get to see Hero vs Huk before Idra vs MC
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8425
On November 20 2011 10:25 Mouzone wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:24 PG13 wrote:
No wonders even MVP doesn't have answer for this shit. LOL, build 4 bunkers -> lose anyway


Siege tanks > that.

Any TvP suggestion involving tanks (outside of a pre-planned early/midgame timing attack/all in) is made of stupid.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8426
Hey guiz. I heard that if I get a quick 3rd orbital and double engineering bay and as long as I build 5 bunkers I should be safe against any protoss all-in. - sincerely, TROLL.
liftlift > tsm
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:31:40
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8427
For those who want to see the ceremony again you can just rewind the stream as always.
Its at around 8:48:50.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8428
On November 20 2011 10:27 dignitas.merz wrote:
MVP fucked up the positioning mainly due to supply depots being placed as a semi-wall right next to the bunkers (why does T players still insist on placing depots to minimize repair surface area.. it's not worth it) If he had maximum surface area for repair along his bunkers, he could've held that because his +1 wep and stim finished up right on time. People saying he played "greedy" he went 4 bunkers and held off fac/starport for so long, what he did wasn't as greedy as you make it out to be.


He made the depots to minimize surface because MC was going to force field the bunkers anyways so there is no way to get a good repair anyways so its better to make the depots. The greedy build he did its just kind of a BO loss there is no way to hold that maybe if he got another couple bunkers up.
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8429
Can't wait for Keen to crush Major , this is going to be good
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
fatworthlessvirgin
Profile Joined November 2011
United States34 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8430
On November 20 2011 10:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:22 Logros wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote:
Disgusting seeing MVP lose toa blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.

MC pretty damn lucky.

MVP made his 3rd CC almost at the same time as MC's 2nd nexus. If he would've gone a normal build he would've been fine.

This EXACTLY. A greedy build losing to an All-in? Must be unfair! Either that or MC played GREAT.


it's not really greedy. it's completely standard on any other map, but Tal Darim has no ramp and really hard to hold off all in. Mvp just read MC wrongly i guess.
I am literal scum.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8431
Damn I want to sleep but 4 of the most epic matches are coming up T.T
Krewli
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden28 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8432
IT WAS A BUILDORDER LOSS.......
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8433
On November 20 2011 10:24 scaban84 wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:23 Black Gun wrote:
omfg, this game made me so angry as a terran player. what more could mvp have done in terms of defense? how are you actually supposed to hold an attack like this one?

id be really curious for higher level players in here explaining to me what mvp did wrong that game....

He played greedy by going for a third CC. He had no Siege Tanks.

Siege tanks lol, who the fuck does macro oriented siege tank play in TvP? Goody?
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8434
On November 20 2011 10:29 Legend` wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:28 kofman wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:27 Legend` wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:26 kofman wrote:
Its crazy how when MVP loses to a timing attack that he prepared for perfectly, people just say "he played greedy", while whenever Toss loses to 111 or 3 rax or anything like that, its immediatly imba.


Because it's true lol

Just look at the MLG brackets, and tell me that Terran is OP.


Just look at the amount of Protoss tournament wins within the past 3 months and tell me that Protoss is OP



Just look at the number of terran nerfs and awful protoss play and tell me...
Assaulter
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania324 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8435
On November 20 2011 10:25 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:24 kofman wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:22 Logros wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote:
Disgusting seeing MVP lose toa blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.

MC pretty damn lucky.

MVP made his 3rd CC almost at the same time as MC's 2nd nexus. If he would've gone a normal build he would've been fine.

This EXACTLY. A greedy build losing to an All-in? Must be unfair! Either that or MC played GREAT.

Greedy build??? He had FOUR BUNKERS! Plus, he walled off with depots, had great repair, and had stim. What else does he need?


He needs tanks or medivacs or more bio. Not a 3rd CC and double engineering bay + upgrading.

tanks? he knows everyone's gonna hate him if he builds tanks. not worth losing your fans over this
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8436
On November 20 2011 10:23 ViceZ wrote:
mc vs idra is like the el clasico, cant wait


No interntion of America-bashing... But I did not think americans knew what El Clasico is

But yeah, it's a fine combo of 3 great things:
1: Two good players. Willing to macro or all in at any time (well IdrA after 12mins)
2: Rivalry always makes for better games
3: The amount of potential BM (and entertainment) is through the roof
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada381 Posts
November 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#8437
On November 20 2011 10:30 CocoPoofs wrote:
Terrans when Toss complains about 1/1/1: it's an allin, stop playing greedy and expanding

Now look at all the hypocrisy when MVP loses to an allin while playing super greedy. He had 4 bunkers sure, but do 4 cannons help much against a 1/1/1?


Thank you
NME.352 GM NA Protoss
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:31:21
November 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#8438
On November 20 2011 10:29 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:27 cmen15 wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:27 Amornthep wrote:
Hey people, stop complaining about that game. MVP went 3rd CC before his 2nd rax and went for double engineering bay, had he not went for that 3rd CC he could have gotten more units to hold off the 6 gate. 6 Gate was the perfect response there for the protoss.


This is very smart man..... agree

Lol i am not disagreeing, but the thing that annoys me the most is that MC had no fucking idea that Mvp did that. It was a completely blind all in; but hey - it works, especially on a map like Tal'Darim


He might've seen that MVP does this often vs Protoss. it was the best decision on the best map for it.

having star sense wins games alot more than amazing strategy
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#8439
On November 20 2011 10:30 Clank wrote:
Show nested quote +
MLG: Coming up on the Red stream!
NANIWA vs NESTEA: The Re-Killening

And immediately following that:
IDRA vs MC: The Gracken vs the Murlock

Go refill your drinks and get into pajamas- we're in for a long, glorious night.


MLG is loving these story lines playing out, how great is this. sick sick tournament!


Yeah, expecting legendary games tbh.
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
November 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#8440
On November 20 2011 10:30 CocoPoofs wrote:
Terrans when Toss complains about 1/1/1: it's an allin, stop playing greedy and expanding

Now look at all the hypocrisy when MVP loses to an allin while playing super greedy. He had 4 bunkers sure, but do 4 cannons help much against a 1/1/1?

Yes, 4 cannons do help...
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