On November 08 2011 04:19 bobohobo wrote: Tastetosis already said in a GSL cast that Sen is one of the top 3 zergs in the world along with Nestea and Losira and that Sen is the ONLY foreign player who can beat the Koreans on a regular basis. Enough said.
For one, how along ago was that? Second, who cares what hypetosis says?
tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.
you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.
Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
DRG is a bit overrated as well, however. IIRC, he got destroyed by MKP and Bomber, yet both of those players have been taken down by foreigner Zergs (Stephano and IdrA, respectively).
Also - playing in less tourneys and finishing well in each of them is less meaningful than playing in a lot of tourneys and finishing well in only some of them?
Well if you want to cherry pick bo3, then I can do the same. Bomber beat Idra 2-0 at MLG Raleigh in group stage, then lost 2-1 in orlando mainly due to his silly 15 min pure marine attack. Stephano beat the stc and boxer at IPL, but then lost to them in the rematch at MLG orlando.
It's not so much about cherry picking as it is about showing that DRG's results against the very top Terran players aren't any better than IdrA's or Stephano's, at least when we restrict ourselves to recent BoXs.
Consider this: he recently lost 1-2 to Supernova if I'm not mistaken. Now, if you put Supernova up against IdrA/Stephano, would you be able to confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano? I wouldn't. That's why I don't think DRG is as godly as his fans insist.
Well this is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes he lost 1-2 to supernova because he threw away game 1 when he had a massive lead. Still that is 1 bo3 and yes I would say supernova has a chance against idra/stephano in a bo3. Do I think supernova could beat DRG in a bo7 or have a winning % in numerous bo3? No, I do not.
Cause I can flip it around and say do you think the stc and boxer could beat idra and stephano? Well they both have in the past. Boxer has beaten idra in nasl and mlg anaheim I think? Stc also beat Idra at IPL. Plus I already mentioned stc and boxer beating stephano in their rematch at MLG Orlando.
You're not answering the question. You're avoiding it. I asked, "would you confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano," not whether he has a chance against them. Because if he merely has a chance against them, then DRG is no better than IdrA/Stephano in that regard.
And I don't even get what your second paragraph has to do with the argument. Can STC and Boxer beat IdrA and Stephano? Yes. Can they beat DRG? You tell me.
On November 08 2011 04:19 bobohobo wrote: Tastetosis already said in a GSL cast that Sen is one of the top 3 zergs in the world along with Nestea and Losira and that Sen is the ONLY foreign player who can beat the Koreans on a regular basis. Enough said.
I wouldn't take what Tastosis says about any player seriously.
Remember when they kept dissing Curious? Look where he's at now.
I agree with this because I mean tastosis would never use hyperbole. That is unthinkable.
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote: [quote] you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.
Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
DRG is a bit overrated as well, however. IIRC, he got destroyed by MKP and Bomber, yet both of those players have been taken down by foreigner Zergs (Stephano and IdrA, respectively).
Also - playing in less tourneys and finishing well in each of them is less meaningful than playing in a lot of tourneys and finishing well in only some of them?
Well if you want to cherry pick bo3, then I can do the same. Bomber beat Idra 2-0 at MLG Raleigh in group stage, then lost 2-1 in orlando mainly due to his silly 15 min pure marine attack. Stephano beat the stc and boxer at IPL, but then lost to them in the rematch at MLG orlando.
It's not so much about cherry picking as it is about showing that DRG's results against the very top Terran players aren't any better than IdrA's or Stephano's, at least when we restrict ourselves to recent BoXs.
Consider this: he recently lost 1-2 to Supernova if I'm not mistaken. Now, if you put Supernova up against IdrA/Stephano, would you be able to confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano? I wouldn't. That's why I don't think DRG is as godly as his fans insist.
Well this is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes he lost 1-2 to supernova because he threw away game 1 when he had a massive lead. Still that is 1 bo3 and yes I would say supernova has a chance against idra/stephano in a bo3. Do I think supernova could beat DRG in a bo7 or have a winning % in numerous bo3? No, I do not.
Cause I can flip it around and say do you think the stc and boxer could beat idra and stephano? Well they both have in the past. Boxer has beaten idra in nasl and mlg anaheim I think? Stc also beat Idra at IPL. Plus I already mentioned stc and boxer beating stephano in their rematch at MLG Orlando.
You're not answering the question. You're avoiding it. I asked, "would you confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano," not whether he has a chance against them. Because if he merely has a chance against them, then DRG is no better than IdrA/Stephano in that regard.
And I don't even get what your second paragraph has to do with the argument. Can STC and Boxer beat IdrA and Stephano? Yes. Can they beat DRG? You tell me.
Oh ok you wanted definitive answers no problem. Yes supernova can beat stephano and Idra. No, stc and boxer can't beat drg consistently.
There is only 1 terran in the world that I will say can beat DRG consistently and that's MVP becuase he has the best TvZ in the world.
Anyways, this is going off topic because DRG isn't even here. We all need to get back to what's important and that's cheering for MKP to win this event!
On November 08 2011 03:20 myrmidon2537 wrote: So.. is it worth going to this event live? seeing as I'm only a short ride away, or is the live experience just as bad >_>
Yes! worth it even though there were long delays, you still gotta see it live!! great players and good games!
Watching live is great, watching through the big screen with a crowd that loves the game. this event may or may not happen again here. So i suggest you watch and enjoy the games! Worth it!
On November 08 2011 03:02 Elem wrote: [quote]SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.
Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
DRG is a bit overrated as well, however. IIRC, he got destroyed by MKP and Bomber, yet both of those players have been taken down by foreigner Zergs (Stephano and IdrA, respectively).
Also - playing in less tourneys and finishing well in each of them is less meaningful than playing in a lot of tourneys and finishing well in only some of them?
Well if you want to cherry pick bo3, then I can do the same. Bomber beat Idra 2-0 at MLG Raleigh in group stage, then lost 2-1 in orlando mainly due to his silly 15 min pure marine attack. Stephano beat the stc and boxer at IPL, but then lost to them in the rematch at MLG orlando.
It's not so much about cherry picking as it is about showing that DRG's results against the very top Terran players aren't any better than IdrA's or Stephano's, at least when we restrict ourselves to recent BoXs.
Consider this: he recently lost 1-2 to Supernova if I'm not mistaken. Now, if you put Supernova up against IdrA/Stephano, would you be able to confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano? I wouldn't. That's why I don't think DRG is as godly as his fans insist.
Well this is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes he lost 1-2 to supernova because he threw away game 1 when he had a massive lead. Still that is 1 bo3 and yes I would say supernova has a chance against idra/stephano in a bo3. Do I think supernova could beat DRG in a bo7 or have a winning % in numerous bo3? No, I do not.
Cause I can flip it around and say do you think the stc and boxer could beat idra and stephano? Well they both have in the past. Boxer has beaten idra in nasl and mlg anaheim I think? Stc also beat Idra at IPL. Plus I already mentioned stc and boxer beating stephano in their rematch at MLG Orlando.
You're not answering the question. You're avoiding it. I asked, "would you confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano," not whether he has a chance against them. Because if he merely has a chance against them, then DRG is no better than IdrA/Stephano in that regard.
And I don't even get what your second paragraph has to do with the argument. Can STC and Boxer beat IdrA and Stephano? Yes. Can they beat DRG? You tell me.
Oh ok you wanted definitive answers no problem. Yes supernova can beat stephano and Idra. No, stc and boxer can't beat drg consistently.
Those are still weasel words. "Can" is not the same as "would." And why would you feel the need to add "consistently" unless you thought that STC and Boxer "can," in fact, defeat DRG?
That's what I'm talking about. DRG is not at the level where he is obviously better than Stephano and IdrA in ZvT. If he were, you would be using words much stronger than those. For example, if I put Nestea instead of DRG, most people would say that anyone who can beat Nestea will almost certainly beat Stephano and IdrA, while anyone Stephano and IdrA can beat will almost certainly lose to Nestea.
Of course, there are flukes in Starcraft 2, and a certain degree of instability that causes better players to lose to worse players. But DRG's losses to MKP and Bomber were not fluke games - at the time it was believed that MKP and Bomber were simply better than him (or that Terran was better than Zerg).
At the same time, MKP and Bomber's losses to Stephano and IdrA weren't fluke games, either. Perhaps MKP did not study Stephano enough, or perhaps Bomber thought IdrA would be an easy win, but at the end of the day, they lost with their normal macro styles.
How can you say that DRG is obviously better than IdrA and Stephano when he loses in non-fluke games to some of the best TvZ Terrans in Korea, while they win against the same?
On November 08 2011 03:08 Olinimm wrote: [quote] Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
DRG is a bit overrated as well, however. IIRC, he got destroyed by MKP and Bomber, yet both of those players have been taken down by foreigner Zergs (Stephano and IdrA, respectively).
Also - playing in less tourneys and finishing well in each of them is less meaningful than playing in a lot of tourneys and finishing well in only some of them?
Well if you want to cherry pick bo3, then I can do the same. Bomber beat Idra 2-0 at MLG Raleigh in group stage, then lost 2-1 in orlando mainly due to his silly 15 min pure marine attack. Stephano beat the stc and boxer at IPL, but then lost to them in the rematch at MLG orlando.
It's not so much about cherry picking as it is about showing that DRG's results against the very top Terran players aren't any better than IdrA's or Stephano's, at least when we restrict ourselves to recent BoXs.
Consider this: he recently lost 1-2 to Supernova if I'm not mistaken. Now, if you put Supernova up against IdrA/Stephano, would you be able to confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano? I wouldn't. That's why I don't think DRG is as godly as his fans insist.
Well this is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes he lost 1-2 to supernova because he threw away game 1 when he had a massive lead. Still that is 1 bo3 and yes I would say supernova has a chance against idra/stephano in a bo3. Do I think supernova could beat DRG in a bo7 or have a winning % in numerous bo3? No, I do not.
Cause I can flip it around and say do you think the stc and boxer could beat idra and stephano? Well they both have in the past. Boxer has beaten idra in nasl and mlg anaheim I think? Stc also beat Idra at IPL. Plus I already mentioned stc and boxer beating stephano in their rematch at MLG Orlando.
You're not answering the question. You're avoiding it. I asked, "would you confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano," not whether he has a chance against them. Because if he merely has a chance against them, then DRG is no better than IdrA/Stephano in that regard.
And I don't even get what your second paragraph has to do with the argument. Can STC and Boxer beat IdrA and Stephano? Yes. Can they beat DRG? You tell me.
Oh ok you wanted definitive answers no problem. Yes supernova can beat stephano and Idra. No, stc and boxer can't beat drg consistently.
Those are still weasel words. "Can" is not the same as "would." And why would you feel the need to add "consistently" unless you thought that STC and Boxer "can," in fact, defeat DRG?
That's what I'm talking about. DRG is not at the level where he is obviously better than Stephano and IdrA in ZvT. If he were, you would be using words much stronger than those. For example, if I put Nestea instead of DRG, most people would say that anyone who can beat Nestea will almost certainly beat Stephano and IdrA, while anyone Stephano and IdrA can beat will almost certainly lose to Nestea.
Of course, there are flukes in Starcraft 2, and a certain degree of instability that causes better players to lose to worse players. But DRG's losses to MKP and Bomber were not fluke games - at the time it was believed that MKP and Bomber were simply better than him (or that Terran was better than Zerg). At the same time, MKP and Bomber's losses to Stephano and IdrA weren't fluke games, either. Perhaps MKP did not study Stephano enough, or perhaps Bomber thought IdrA would be an easy win, but at the end of the day, they lost with their normal macro styles.
How can you say that DRG is obviously better than IdrA and Stephano when he loses in non-fluke games to some of the best TvZ Terrans in Korea, while they win against the same?
Wow you're a real stickler for words aren't you? Ok I will end this debate to your satisfaction now. Supernova will beat idra and stephano 100%. STC and Boxer will lose to DRG 100%. There, that's my opinion on it crystal clear now with no chance of error for interpretation.
DRG has the best ZvT in the world and has no equal in that matchup at the moment.
I do think DRG's quite overrated, especially for being legitimately good at only one match-up, but to say that he's not good at ZvT would be a pretty difficult case to make.
But, eh, I just don't think DRG's that much better than Leenock, personally, and Leenock gets less than half the hype that DRG gets. And, as I've mentioned, I feel that Curious is better than both of them by far since he can actually play all the match-ups and not drop games to people like Gatored, FruitDealer, and Tester, but he gets even less credit than Leenock, if you'd believe it. It's because DRG's flashy, and Leenock and Curious aren't (lol standard all day, every day), so people naturally gravitate towards DRG and hype him up, and obviously, it helps that he provides fan-service with his English and ceremonies and such.
On November 08 2011 03:18 Elem wrote: [quote]SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
DRG is a bit overrated as well, however. IIRC, he got destroyed by MKP and Bomber, yet both of those players have been taken down by foreigner Zergs (Stephano and IdrA, respectively).
Also - playing in less tourneys and finishing well in each of them is less meaningful than playing in a lot of tourneys and finishing well in only some of them?
Well if you want to cherry pick bo3, then I can do the same. Bomber beat Idra 2-0 at MLG Raleigh in group stage, then lost 2-1 in orlando mainly due to his silly 15 min pure marine attack. Stephano beat the stc and boxer at IPL, but then lost to them in the rematch at MLG orlando.
It's not so much about cherry picking as it is about showing that DRG's results against the very top Terran players aren't any better than IdrA's or Stephano's, at least when we restrict ourselves to recent BoXs.
Consider this: he recently lost 1-2 to Supernova if I'm not mistaken. Now, if you put Supernova up against IdrA/Stephano, would you be able to confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano? I wouldn't. That's why I don't think DRG is as godly as his fans insist.
Well this is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes he lost 1-2 to supernova because he threw away game 1 when he had a massive lead. Still that is 1 bo3 and yes I would say supernova has a chance against idra/stephano in a bo3. Do I think supernova could beat DRG in a bo7 or have a winning % in numerous bo3? No, I do not.
Cause I can flip it around and say do you think the stc and boxer could beat idra and stephano? Well they both have in the past. Boxer has beaten idra in nasl and mlg anaheim I think? Stc also beat Idra at IPL. Plus I already mentioned stc and boxer beating stephano in their rematch at MLG Orlando.
You're not answering the question. You're avoiding it. I asked, "would you confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano," not whether he has a chance against them. Because if he merely has a chance against them, then DRG is no better than IdrA/Stephano in that regard.
And I don't even get what your second paragraph has to do with the argument. Can STC and Boxer beat IdrA and Stephano? Yes. Can they beat DRG? You tell me.
Oh ok you wanted definitive answers no problem. Yes supernova can beat stephano and Idra. No, stc and boxer can't beat drg consistently.
Those are still weasel words. "Can" is not the same as "would." And why would you feel the need to add "consistently" unless you thought that STC and Boxer "can," in fact, defeat DRG?
That's what I'm talking about. DRG is not at the level where he is obviously better than Stephano and IdrA in ZvT. If he were, you would be using words much stronger than those. For example, if I put Nestea instead of DRG, most people would say that anyone who can beat Nestea will almost certainly beat Stephano and IdrA, while anyone Stephano and IdrA can beat will almost certainly lose to Nestea.
Of course, there are flukes in Starcraft 2, and a certain degree of instability that causes better players to lose to worse players. But DRG's losses to MKP and Bomber were not fluke games - at the time it was believed that MKP and Bomber were simply better than him (or that Terran was better than Zerg). At the same time, MKP and Bomber's losses to Stephano and IdrA weren't fluke games, either. Perhaps MKP did not study Stephano enough, or perhaps Bomber thought IdrA would be an easy win, but at the end of the day, they lost with their normal macro styles.
How can you say that DRG is obviously better than IdrA and Stephano when he loses in non-fluke games to some of the best TvZ Terrans in Korea, while they win against the same?
Wow you're a real stickler for words aren't you. Ok I will end this debate to your satisfaction now. Supernova will beat idra and stephano 100%. STC and Boxer will lose to DRG 100%. There, that's my opinion on it crystal clear now with no chance of error for interpretation.
DRG has the best ZvT in the world and has no equal in that matchup at the moment.
I agree, not with the predictions on BoX's, but that this conversation was pretty pointless to read (but I did it anyways...). Good show Canuck!
On November 08 2011 03:18 Elem wrote: [quote]SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
DRG is a bit overrated as well, however. IIRC, he got destroyed by MKP and Bomber, yet both of those players have been taken down by foreigner Zergs (Stephano and IdrA, respectively).
Also - playing in less tourneys and finishing well in each of them is less meaningful than playing in a lot of tourneys and finishing well in only some of them?
Well if you want to cherry pick bo3, then I can do the same. Bomber beat Idra 2-0 at MLG Raleigh in group stage, then lost 2-1 in orlando mainly due to his silly 15 min pure marine attack. Stephano beat the stc and boxer at IPL, but then lost to them in the rematch at MLG orlando.
It's not so much about cherry picking as it is about showing that DRG's results against the very top Terran players aren't any better than IdrA's or Stephano's, at least when we restrict ourselves to recent BoXs.
Consider this: he recently lost 1-2 to Supernova if I'm not mistaken. Now, if you put Supernova up against IdrA/Stephano, would you be able to confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano? I wouldn't. That's why I don't think DRG is as godly as his fans insist.
Well this is what I mean by cherry picking. Yes he lost 1-2 to supernova because he threw away game 1 when he had a massive lead. Still that is 1 bo3 and yes I would say supernova has a chance against idra/stephano in a bo3. Do I think supernova could beat DRG in a bo7 or have a winning % in numerous bo3? No, I do not.
Cause I can flip it around and say do you think the stc and boxer could beat idra and stephano? Well they both have in the past. Boxer has beaten idra in nasl and mlg anaheim I think? Stc also beat Idra at IPL. Plus I already mentioned stc and boxer beating stephano in their rematch at MLG Orlando.
You're not answering the question. You're avoiding it. I asked, "would you confidently say that Supernova would beat IdrA/Stephano," not whether he has a chance against them. Because if he merely has a chance against them, then DRG is no better than IdrA/Stephano in that regard.
And I don't even get what your second paragraph has to do with the argument. Can STC and Boxer beat IdrA and Stephano? Yes. Can they beat DRG? You tell me.
Oh ok you wanted definitive answers no problem. Yes supernova can beat stephano and Idra. No, stc and boxer can't beat drg consistently.
Those are still weasel words. "Can" is not the same as "would." And why would you feel the need to add "consistently" unless you thought that STC and Boxer "can," in fact, defeat DRG?
That's what I'm talking about. DRG is not at the level where he is obviously better than Stephano and IdrA in ZvT. If he were, you would be using words much stronger than those. For example, if I put Nestea instead of DRG, most people would say that anyone who can beat Nestea will almost certainly beat Stephano and IdrA, while anyone Stephano and IdrA can beat will almost certainly lose to Nestea.
Of course, there are flukes in Starcraft 2, and a certain degree of instability that causes better players to lose to worse players. But DRG's losses to MKP and Bomber were not fluke games - at the time it was believed that MKP and Bomber were simply better than him (or that Terran was better than Zerg). At the same time, MKP and Bomber's losses to Stephano and IdrA weren't fluke games, either. Perhaps MKP did not study Stephano enough, or perhaps Bomber thought IdrA would be an easy win, but at the end of the day, they lost with their normal macro styles.
How can you say that DRG is obviously better than IdrA and Stephano when he loses in non-fluke games to some of the best TvZ Terrans in Korea, while they win against the same?
Wow you're a real stickler for words aren't you. Ok I will end this debate to your satisfaction now. Supernova will beat idra and stephano 100%. STC and Boxer will lose to DRG 100%. There, that's my opinion on it crystal clear now with no chance of error for interpretation.
And there's the disagreement.
See? We've gone around in a circle due to the use of "weasel" words, but at the end of the day it comes down to a disagreement over how well we'd expect Supernova to perform against IdrA and Stephano, which is why I used the example in the first place.
I can't confidently say that Supernova would beat Idra and Stephano, and that goes for other Terrans of his caliber, as well - and that's why I think DRG is just a bit overrated.
On November 07 2011 23:20 red4ce wrote: So looking at the liquipedia brackets, am I to understand that Every Korean made it through to the Ro16 but not a single player from the home country has? Ouch.
I don't think anyone really expected them to, though. Maybe one or two, but it's pretty much known that the SEA region is at the bottom of the pack in terms of average skill level in SC 2. The Australians and New Zealanders have the best chances, but that's partly because they have access to the non-SEA scene.
Tell the IGN people to move the SEA qualifier to TW next time. TW has Tesl, they have the resources and know-how to stream and broadcast games on TV and Internet. PH people aren't used to start games on-time.
On November 08 2011 04:19 bobohobo wrote: Tastetosis already said in a GSL cast that Sen is one of the top 3 zergs in the world along with Nestea and Losira and that Sen is the ONLY foreign player who can beat the Koreans on a regular basis. Enough said.
For one, how along ago was that? Second, who cares what hypetosis says?
Sen has only gotten better since then. When Tastetosis said that, Sen was still playing SC2 on a part-time basis when he was still in school full time. Whenever Sen ladders all the Koreans message Sen to try to practice against him, can you say that about other zergs?
Speaking of practice, I wonder who Moon has been practicing with lately. I mean ... his SC2 practice situation is probably not so different from when he played on WMF, but it's always been something I've wondered about. Where the hell does he get his practice from? Pure ladder? I know Lyn mentioned that he mainly practiced on the ladder when he was on WMF, but ... hmm.
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