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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 07 2011 16:58 GMT
#921
Duddddeeee, what a great way to wake up. <3 Moon.

(<3 SaSe too, but Moooooooon. Glad to see him still being a beast at two games.)
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
November 07 2011 17:55 GMT
#922
On November 07 2011 23:15 iaguz wrote:
TargA couldn't go because he had exams. We were going to send YoonYJ instead but then AZKWitchdoc decided not to let a QUALIFIED player play in the event and replaced TargA with AZKSickness.

That is fucking disgraceful and it's bullshit that AZK aren't held to account at all.

And yea, it wouldn't surprise me that AZK/PPSL is fucking things up. Any organisation that has ziek/zanooku as one of it's members is probably more slippery than an eel in a bucket of shit..


I'd REALLY like an explanation about this.

I mean it, really.
NoiR
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
November 07 2011 17:57 GMT
#923
And a bracket..
Arrietty
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines29 Posts
November 07 2011 18:02 GMT
#924
On November 08 2011 02:57 m0ck wrote:
And a bracket..

I don't even think there's a bracket for tomorrow yet...

From Sase's twitter an hour ago:
still dont know who I play or what time zzzzzzzzzzzzzz sleeping time soon!

It's already 2am here, by the way.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 07 2011 18:02 GMT
#925
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 00:29 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:25 Wawa wrote:
thnx for the correction.
but yeah. sen is on his timezone. no jetlag. and his games are always awesome to watch.
he needs to win this!!


tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.

you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.
#freeshauni
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
November 07 2011 18:08 GMT
#926
Are there VODs released yet? Really want to see the MKP games.
TEEHEE
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
November 07 2011 18:08 GMT
#927
On November 08 2011 03:02 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:29 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:25 Wawa wrote:
thnx for the correction.
but yeah. sen is on his timezone. no jetlag. and his games are always awesome to watch.
he needs to win this!!


tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.

you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.

Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
November 07 2011 18:15 GMT
#928
On November 08 2011 01:36 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 00:23 Farone wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:16 Wawa wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:08 SeaSwift wrote:
I think MC has got this. The only possible challenges are, in no particular order:

MKP, Sickness/Sase (MC has had dodgy PvP of late, but still better than Naniwa for sure), Sen (Sen is undoubtedly really good, but I'm not sure how good recently. He seemed to be more of a monster a couple of months ago).


I heard MC was in a Bad mood on Day 1.

i think Sen is more favorable here. he only lost to MVP and Nestea in blizzcon.
then dominated naniwa in PPSL day1 so i think he's in good shape.

i predict Moon to be in 3rd place.
Rossi should make it far as well.

Sickness, if on top form, will rip people apart.
hopefully, Sase can bounce back from today's games.

FXO pulled some big surprises during IPL 3.
maybe Whale can do the same here as well.


Sen lost to naniwa and to MVP,

anyways during blizzcon and here at this qual. he is beastly, looking very strong!

Sen beat Nani and lost to MVP to take the 3rd place actually.

yes, but he still lost to naniwa
MORROW, NANIWA, SASE, THORZAIN, SORTOF | NTH, PULSE, LGD.INT
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 18:22:16
November 07 2011 18:17 GMT
#929
On November 08 2011 03:02 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:29 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:25 Wawa wrote:
thnx for the correction.
but yeah. sen is on his timezone. no jetlag. and his games are always awesome to watch.
he needs to win this!!


tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.

you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.


It depends on the MU.

A while ago, Sen's ZvZ was more consistent than IdrA's, while IdrA's ZvT was better than Sen's.

Also, ZvP has almost always been IdrA's worst/most disliked MU. I think Sen stands a better chance in that MU than IdrA though it's hard to call these days. Practicing with HuK has helped IdrA a lot.

They're both a caliber above Socke, at least in terms of results. SeleCT, though, is around the same level, with his recent practice in Korea showing results.

And I also feel that Stephano is slightly better than both Sen and IdrA, simply because he has some of that "X" factor that every other Zerg seems to lack. It's uncanny to me how Stephano plays sometimes, whereas with Sen and IdrA I can usually follow their strategies, tactics, and general mindset.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 07 2011 18:18 GMT
#930
On November 08 2011 03:08 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 03:02 Elem wrote:
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:29 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:25 Wawa wrote:
thnx for the correction.
but yeah. sen is on his timezone. no jetlag. and his games are always awesome to watch.
he needs to win this!!


tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.

you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.

Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.
#freeshauni
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
November 07 2011 18:20 GMT
#931
So.. is it worth going to this event live? seeing as I'm only a short ride away, or is the live experience just as bad >_>
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 18:31:01
November 07 2011 18:25 GMT
#932
Seeing all this discussion about Sen, it really makes me wonder where he has been these last couple of months: he used to be mentioned along with Idra and the best foreigners, but until Blizzcon I hadn't seen anything of him for a while. Even though I still would favour MC over Sen, Sen will probably be my Dark Horse for the tournament. If anyone can pull an upset (what I would think of an upset, anyway), it would be him.

"Easily top 5 Zerg in the world" smells like rubbish to me, though.

Nestea, Losira, Coca, Stephano, Idra, Leenock, July, DRG et al are all contenders for that, and I've probably left out a couple. If Sen is top 5 Zerg, it is damn close.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#933
On November 08 2011 01:46 koosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 01:35 Krelush wrote:
On November 07 2011 22:50 ZenDeX wrote:
On November 07 2011 22:37 Wivyx wrote:
What happened to TargA?

TargA gave his slot to YoonYJ because he had exams. Unfortunately for some reason YoonYJ's flight got "cancelled".


On November 07 2011 23:15 iaguz wrote:
TargA couldn't go because he had exams. We were going to send YoonYJ instead but then AZKWitchdoc decided not to let a QUALIFIED player play in the event and replaced TargA with AZKSickness.

That is fucking disgraceful and it's bullshit that AZK aren't held to account at all.

And yea, it wouldn't surprise me that AZK/PPSL is fucking things up. Any organisation that has ziek/zanooku as one of it's members is probably more slippery than an eel in a bucket of shit..


Okay so.. what is it really? This, to me, is a pretty big deal. o_o

Either YoonYJ really couldn't make it.. or Team AZK, being the organizers, pulled some strings to get one of their own into the tourney. And if that is the case.. well then that is just terrible. x_x


Whoa, wtf? Someone really should explain this.


Uh oh, this should reallly be clarified. Seems extremely shady.
Go go Alliance.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
November 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#934
On November 08 2011 02:55 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 23:15 iaguz wrote:
TargA couldn't go because he had exams. We were going to send YoonYJ instead but then AZKWitchdoc decided not to let a QUALIFIED player play in the event and replaced TargA with AZKSickness.

That is fucking disgraceful and it's bullshit that AZK aren't held to account at all.

And yea, it wouldn't surprise me that AZK/PPSL is fucking things up. Any organisation that has ziek/zanooku as one of it's members is probably more slippery than an eel in a bucket of shit..


I'd REALLY like an explanation about this.

I mean it, really.

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2699
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 18:31:00
November 07 2011 18:29 GMT
#935
On November 08 2011 03:18 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 03:08 Olinimm wrote:
On November 08 2011 03:02 Elem wrote:
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:29 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:25 Wawa wrote:
thnx for the correction.
but yeah. sen is on his timezone. no jetlag. and his games are always awesome to watch.
he needs to win this!!


tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.

you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.

Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.


Lol, I like Sen, but there's 0 chance he's better than DRG. I guess playing in less tourneys like sen causes him to be overrated massively because the few tourneys he does show up for causes those results to be magnified greatly.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
November 07 2011 18:29 GMT
#936
On November 08 2011 03:20 myrmidon2537 wrote:
So.. is it worth going to this event live? seeing as I'm only a short ride away, or is the live experience just as bad >_>


I just came from the live event, although I wasn't there for the huge delay and made it in time to catch the last few matches (Sen/Naniwa & Sase/Moon). If I was there during the delay im sure my opinion would change, but it was a pretty fun experience to see and meet everyone up close an personal. Got my mouse pad signed by the guys just mentioned above too and a picture with the casting archon!

Since its a short ride you can always leave, so I'd drop by tomorrow since it was pretty fun. Also, sucks that nobody heard the crowd cheering, we were pretty good imo. At least I know I tried my hardest lol.
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 18:43:40
November 07 2011 18:31 GMT
#937
On November 08 2011 02:55 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 23:15 iaguz wrote:
TargA couldn't go because he had exams. We were going to send YoonYJ instead but then AZKWitchdoc decided not to let a QUALIFIED player play in the event and replaced TargA with AZKSickness.

That is fucking disgraceful and it's bullshit that AZK aren't held to account at all.

And yea, it wouldn't surprise me that AZK/PPSL is fucking things up. Any organisation that has ziek/zanooku as one of it's members is probably more slippery than an eel in a bucket of shit..


I'd REALLY like an explanation about this.

I mean it, really.


You can read Yoon's account which was just posted here as the first news post with pictures of the contract etc.
http://www.sc2sea.com/

As some of you might know, Dox helped hold an extensive series of qualifiers

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_4/Pacific_Qualifiers

for Australia on behalf of Witchdoc on the promise that Witchdoc would send the top two Australian players to the Philippines. Dox made them sign official contracts as well. Day 1 of the event is already over and although Rossi was sent, the next in line to go YoonYJ was not given a plane ticket. Every story has two sides and I certainty hope to hear Witchdoc's side here as well, but these are the facts that I know are true after speaking to several people and hence have allowed YoonYJ to share his point of view.

I would like to add that Yoon means no disrespect to any PH player or Team AZK whom he says have helped him practise for the event. He just feels he was unfairly treated by the tournament organiser and he fought through a extremely tough qualifier, even beating mOOnGLaDe in the last round on his way to qualification only to be not given his promised ticket.
sc2sea.com - The SEA / ANZ community
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 07 2011 18:35 GMT
#938
Are they planning to release VODs afterwards? I want to see MKP vs MC =)
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 07 2011 18:39 GMT
#939
Is Carn still in Korea? It doesn't seem to be doing him any good if he is.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
November 07 2011 18:40 GMT
#940
On November 08 2011 03:18 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 03:08 Olinimm wrote:
On November 08 2011 03:02 Elem wrote:
On November 08 2011 01:49 ETisME wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:29 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 08 2011 00:25 Wawa wrote:
thnx for the correction.
but yeah. sen is on his timezone. no jetlag. and his games are always awesome to watch.
he needs to win this!!


tbh I reckon if Sen is losing to players of the calibre of Naniwa (in no way is he bad, just not Code S material), especially in the same matchup as Sen vs MC, then MC should take this easily, no matter his mood/jetlag/Sen's home ground. But we will see: to me, Sen has always been a bit of a dark horse. I consider him about the same level as Socke/Select, some really good, solid foreigners but not normally strong contenders vs really good Koreans.

you put him on the same level as Socke/Select? Really? he is probably around level of idra to me @@
SEn is just under or just above IdrA, depending on who you ask. He's easily top 5 zerg in the world though, capable of beating any of the koreans if things go his way.

Top 5 zerg in the world? Nestea, losira, curious, dongraegu, stephano > sen. I could list more. :/
SEn > Curious, and just above DRG (who is MASSIVELY carried by his ZvT..) Stephano it is debatable, but I think that SEn is the more skilled player. He is the kind of player you must outplay. You can't get "fluke wins" from him.

Sen above dongraegu?... I just don't know what to say. You MASSIVELY overrate him.
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