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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 22 2011 20:38 GMT
#1881
On October 23 2011 05:36 Krossfire wrote:
Can someone give me quick recap of Nestea vs MVP games


Game 1 on shakuras:

MVP goes reactor hellion expand.
Nestea takes a macro hatch at 6 minutes, and double evo chamber shortly after while taking all geysers.
MVP takes a 3rd CC before adding any more production.

Nestea Churns out a million zerglings and crushes MVP's marine/hellion/tank attack just as his infestors hatch. The infestors don't need to spend any energy because lings already win.

Nestea takes a 3rd base, and churns out lings and infestors continuously until 2-2 finishes then kills everything with lings and infested terrans.

Game 2
MVP goes reactor hellion expand
Nestea goes hatch first roach rush with no queens.
MVP doesn't make a bunker
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
October 22 2011 20:38 GMT
#1882
Lol these fun facts are getting to the joke guy from ipl levels.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 20:39:15
October 22 2011 20:38 GMT
#1883
On October 23 2011 05:37 habbey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:34 IMSmooth wrote:
I honestly think MvP is thinking about fan support. He stated that he thinks the fans hate him.... which is why i think he didnt do a all in rush on shattered. Poor guy. Blizzard why would you put in close positions......


actually... that makes a lot of sense.


Its sad he thinks fans hate him.

Ive heard that the korean fans aren't huge MVP fans. From the MLG that he won and the GSL finals last night... it seems he also doesn't have as much foreign fans as others.

Its sad cause I am a huge MVP fan.
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1884
The first game MVP was either exercising terrible decision making with the third CC AND pushing, OR by pushing he was trying to play mind games with Nestea and making him think he was doing a strong 2 base push instead of a 3 cc macro build.

Second game I have a hard time evaluating. Even when I prepare for the all in I tend to lose to roach rushes on close pos. I think the close pos helps with the roach rush more than the potential 2 rax, but maybe my execution is just worse.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1885
Would you idiots shut up about Nestea copying foreigner builds. He has been doing this shit for months now. It's far more likely the foreigners copied him.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1886
On October 23 2011 05:37 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.


Yep, Stephano style in g1 and Nerchio styler in g2. IM has a great coach because he teaches the players to copy foreigner builds

Roach ling all-in is now a Nerchio build? I guess hatch/pool first is also someone else's build?
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1887
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.


Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 20:39:26
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1888
On October 23 2011 05:31 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:30 Flowjo wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
Oh wait but Close Position Shattered Temple is an instant loss for Zerg right.


At the mid - late game? pretty much man, ever try to get a third? You have no choice but to all in. I always baneling bust or roach bust close positions.


Yea but it isn't an instant loss. Sorry.

There's too much hyperbolic whining on these forums. This is just another example of it.

lol it is an insta loss.

every terran on ladder builds a fukin bunker there because all zerg can do is all in.

and mvp didnt.

and what the zerg did? all in.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1889
Bring 'best' players from each region all over the world.

Don't show games.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Snitches get stiches
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1890
Well, this was fun.

InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1891
On October 23 2011 05:36 Krossfire wrote:
Can someone give me quick recap of Nestea vs MVP games


Game 1:
Nestea did an early ling upgrade style that was originally popularized by Stephano. MVP did a fast third under the cover of trying to contain Nestea, but was completely crushed by the zergling infestor army on two bases that Nestea had. MVP tried to come back by building an epic defensive line of siege tanks using high ground medivac placed siege tanks but it ultimately was not enough to overcome Nestea's huge army supply advantage.

Game 2:
Nestea made roaches on close position shattered, and then attack moved. IMMVP did not have a bunker.
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1892
I really like watching the super fast upgraded aggressive ling style into infestor (as popularised by stephano).

Watching Nestea do it I really hope this is a trend not an exception.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1893
is "the hellion with 1 hp" a reference to anything?
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1894
BRO NESTEA HATCHED FIRST. STOP COPYING STEPHANO!!!!!
IMNestea's biggest fan.
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1895
On October 23 2011 05:37 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.


Yep, Stephano style in g1 and Nerchio styler in g2. IM has a great coach because he teaches the players to copy foreigner builds

I don't think you can call a roach bust "Nerchio style", this is such a common strat that many zergs have come with.
RuneZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark90 Posts
October 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#1896
replays up anywhere when blizzcon is over?
Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
October 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#1897
A great match with infinite potential ruined by blizzard maps. Unbelievable.
~Terran For Life~
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
October 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#1898
On October 23 2011 05:38 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:37 adeezy wrote:
People are being super whiny, the tournament is not the focus of blizzcon and it was made to follow a strict schedule, stop comparing it to full fledged tournaments


Isn't there a $50k prize pool?

How the fuck is a $50k first place tournament just an afterthought?


because staff and resources are allocated all over blizzcon, Look at it through an event planner, and to be honest blizzcon tourney was the same exact thing last year and people still complained then
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
October 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#1899
On October 23 2011 05:39 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.


Yep, Stephano style in g1 and Nerchio styler in g2. IM has a great coach because he teaches the players to copy foreigner builds

Roach ling all-in is now a Nerchio build? I guess hatch/pool first is also someone else's build?


Troll bait. Don't reply to them.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
October 22 2011 20:40 GMT
#1900
On October 23 2011 05:39 Flowjo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.


Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.


Guys (for everyone responding like you) learn to spot sarcasm...
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