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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
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On October 23 2011 05:36 Krossfire wrote:
Can someone give me quick recap of Nestea vs MVP games
Game 1 on shakuras:
MVP goes reactor hellion expand.
Nestea takes a macro hatch at 6 minutes, and double evo chamber shortly after while taking all geysers.
MVP takes a 3rd CC before adding any more production.
Nestea Churns out a million zerglings and crushes MVP's marine/hellion/tank attack just as his infestors hatch. The infestors don't need to spend any energy because lings already win.
Nestea takes a 3rd base, and churns out lings and infestors continuously until 2-2 finishes then kills everything with lings and infested terrans.
Game 2
MVP goes reactor hellion expand
Nestea goes hatch first roach rush with no queens.
MVP doesn't make a bunker
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Lol these fun facts are getting to the joke guy from ipl levels.
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On October 23 2011 05:37 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:34 IMSmooth wrote:
I honestly think MvP is thinking about fan support. He stated that he thinks the fans hate him.... which is why i think he didnt do a all in rush on shattered. Poor guy. Blizzard why would you put in close positions...... actually... that makes a lot of sense.
Its sad he thinks fans hate him.
Ive heard that the korean fans aren't huge MVP fans. From the MLG that he won and the GSL finals last night... it seems he also doesn't have as much foreign fans as others.
Its sad cause I am a huge MVP fan.
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The first game MVP was either exercising terrible decision making with the third CC AND pushing, OR by pushing he was trying to play mind games with Nestea and making him think he was doing a strong 2 base push instead of a 3 cc macro build.
Second game I have a hard time evaluating. Even when I prepare for the all in I tend to lose to roach rushes on close pos. I think the close pos helps with the roach rush more than the potential 2 rax, but maybe my execution is just worse.
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Would you idiots shut up about Nestea copying foreigner builds. He has been doing this shit for months now. It's far more likely the foreigners copied him.
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On October 23 2011 05:37 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything. Yep, Stephano style in g1 and Nerchio styler in g2. IM has a great coach because he teaches the players to copy foreigner builds 
Roach ling all-in is now a Nerchio build? I guess hatch/pool first is also someone else's build?
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On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.
Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.
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On October 23 2011 05:31 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:30 Flowjo wrote:On October 23 2011 05:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
Oh wait but Close Position Shattered Temple is an instant loss for Zerg right.
At the mid - late game? pretty much man, ever try to get a third? You have no choice but to all in. I always baneling bust or roach bust close positions. Yea but it isn't an instant loss. Sorry. There's too much hyperbolic whining on these forums. This is just another example of it.
lol it is an insta loss.
every terran on ladder builds a fukin bunker there because all zerg can do is all in.
and mvp didnt.
and what the zerg did? all in.
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Bring 'best' players from each region all over the world.
Don't show games.
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On October 23 2011 05:36 Krossfire wrote:
Can someone give me quick recap of Nestea vs MVP games
Game 1:
Nestea did an early ling upgrade style that was originally popularized by Stephano. MVP did a fast third under the cover of trying to contain Nestea, but was completely crushed by the zergling infestor army on two bases that Nestea had. MVP tried to come back by building an epic defensive line of siege tanks using high ground medivac placed siege tanks but it ultimately was not enough to overcome Nestea's huge army supply advantage.
Game 2:
Nestea made roaches on close position shattered, and then attack moved. IMMVP did not have a bunker.
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I really like watching the super fast upgraded aggressive ling style into infestor (as popularised by stephano).
Watching Nestea do it I really hope this is a trend not an exception.
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is "the hellion with 1 hp" a reference to anything?
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BRO NESTEA HATCHED FIRST. STOP COPYING STEPHANO!!!!!
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On October 23 2011 05:37 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything. Yep, Stephano style in g1 and Nerchio styler in g2. IM has a great coach because he teaches the players to copy foreigner builds
I don't think you can call a roach bust "Nerchio style", this is such a common strat that many zergs have come with.
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replays up anywhere when blizzcon is over?
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A great match with infinite potential ruined by blizzard maps. Unbelievable.
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On October 23 2011 05:38 IMABUNNEH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:37 adeezy wrote:
People are being super whiny, the tournament is not the focus of blizzcon and it was made to follow a strict schedule, stop comparing it to full fledged tournaments Isn't there a $50k prize pool? How the fuck is a $50k first place tournament just an afterthought?
because staff and resources are allocated all over blizzcon, Look at it through an event planner, and to be honest blizzcon tourney was the same exact thing last year and people still complained then
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On October 23 2011 05:39 Xcobidoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:37 cyclone25 wrote:On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything. Yep, Stephano style in g1 and Nerchio styler in g2. IM has a great coach because he teaches the players to copy foreigner builds Roach ling all-in is now a Nerchio build? I guess hatch/pool first is also someone else's build?
Troll bait. Don't reply to them.
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On October 23 2011 05:39 Flowjo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote:
Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything. Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.
Guys (for everyone responding like you) learn to spot sarcasm...
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