Blizzcon Day 2 - Page 284

On October 23 2011 09:37 Velr wrote:


Y
Long games aren't good games.
This was not a good game.

On October 23 2011 09:37 blade55555 wrote:


I'm not talking extended series. He said Nestea won 1 game sure in that 2 sets of bo3 sure.

But overall they were 3-3 (nestea had won 3 including their series that knocked MVP to lower bracket finals) and MVP winning their "7"th game in a since. If MVP hadn't lost in the upper bracket then yeah it would have been "outclassed so hard" but overall MVP just beat nestea one more time.

On October 23 2011 09:35 sickra wrote:
TIL ghosts are pretty good when Zerg has no detection.

On October 23 2011 09:36 Krehlmar wrote:

At the very least not mass broodlord without detection (he build 5 overseers he didn't bring?) with all your money and not rebuild your bases.


I withold my stance: NesTea gave MVP that game. There is no logic behind his gameplay in the last match.
Despite anyones whine on ghosts; That was not the major problem here, NesTea didn't even do the fundamentals like rebuilding lost expansions or countering the drops. He even stopt dropping the ghosts in MVP's base when he still had 12+ banelings left in the overlords... he'd killed all of them but he just stopt for no apparent reason (not to defend his bases since they still all died during this so what the fuck was he doing?)

On October 23 2011 09:35 Sooji wrote:


exactly. I'm pretty damn confident they decided to split the pot and do a silly show match. Hopefully people don't actually think sc2 is played like that.

On October 23 2011 09:37 fant0m wrote:
So fucking easy for Mvp to force Nestea to need twice his APM to keep up. Just set the rallies use shift to queue up 3 drops and 3 nukes at once, impossible to deal with every location on the map at once with melee units. Marines beat everything in the air, so you have to run around map architecture while Terran just flies over it.

Meanwhile, Zerg's options are easy to clean up and can't be sent to multiple locations at once. Nydus never even got planted, and he wasn't even able to drop all of his overlords.

Siege tanks with turrets and marines beat everything coming out of 1 choke except T3, yet he still has so much supply that he can just mass Ghosts and Vikings and defeat every T3 combination. 2 Thors + 3/3 marines make any number of Mutas worthless.

Seriously, there is literally nothing that Nestea could have done. His APM was easily stretched to the brink, and we're talking about Nestea here, he looked horrible because there is literally no way to control your army in that many places and keep up with Terran "APM" of 3 shift clicks and a shift+D that he set up 2 minutes earlier.

The map sucks balls in a split map scenario of course, but literally EVERY MAP has a choke somewhere, and that's ALL Terran needs.