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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5401
On October 23 2011 09:30 kiy0 wrote:
This is just perfect. An unparallel demonstration of how OP Terran really is. And all of this right at Blizzcon.

Take that Blizzard. Lets hope you don't screw up HotS.


Come on, MVP played much better than Nestea. MVP had constant harassment going with drops, while Nestea defended them very badly with 1 a baneling army. The only problem with the matchup as I see it are zergs' inability to punish PF expansions.
Parting
sinkan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden115 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5402
No way they did not split the money
crappy last game...
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5403
GG, i hope blizz looks into ghosts.
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AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5404
That was really strange from Nestea. I'm not really sure what that massive doom drop of banelings was all about. He finished the drop and still had 2 full overlords, then didn't even bother to move the flock out of MVP's main and instead left them to get sniped down.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5405
Wow... Nestea played like he was a total noob the last 10-15 minutes. He had no multitasking at all and didnt deal with any of his expansions being attacked, he did not prevent a single one of those nukes that werent hard to spot since there was nothing else going on and he managed to throw away all of his detection at the start of the last battle. That was just plain bad. I had hoped for a better last game when it had such huge potential
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5406
People think this was a good game?? They did nothing for 20 min and than ghost.


sigh
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5407
On October 23 2011 09:30 Dissonance23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:28 Sc2Null wrote:
8 ghosts > 20+ broodlords


18 ghosts + 14 vikings*

I swear people who fucking post this bullshit aren't actually watching the same game as the rest of us are.



8 ghosts with max energy can kill 20 broodlords easily. They're a joke honestly.


There's not enough energy to kill 20 broodlords on 8 ghosts...

On 18 however.
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Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5408
why did he run of the stage..i dont understand
TPW Mapmaking Team
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5409
On October 23 2011 09:31 itkovian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 Daok wrote:
Nestea EPIC FAIL..... what the fuck? Make 20 Hatcherys, fucking overwhelm MPV with Banelings ezez


At one point, Nestea had like 10k minerals to MVPs 700. And they were both capped. Just... take your army... and run it at him. Then make a new army. I don't know why the fuck he procrastinated so long to attack....


How was NesTea meant to know that MVP had low resources?
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Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5410
On October 23 2011 09:30 MajorityofOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
got infestors? ghosts
got broodlords? ghosts
got ultras? ghosts
got spinecrawlers? ghosts
got many expos? ghosts



clearly it was the infestor do-all unit that needed the nerf right?

/rage off


They're very powerful, but to be fair making that many Brood Lords when you know ghosts and vikings are out was a bit silly. I think Nestea just got too frustrated, Infestor/Ultra/Banelings might (I stress the might) have been able to pull it off


mvp walled off with PF"s and he was going to mine out faster..so eh
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exnomendei
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands122 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5411
On October 23 2011 09:30 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm yeah if you snipe the Overseers the ghosts will be invisible and undetectable so... What's the answer, I guess Fungal?


I believe that's EMP.

I mean, EMP stops the possibility of fungal, to clarify.
Trying something wacky, expanding it, adjusting it, perfecting it -> Build order
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5412
meh... bad game, nestea im at dissapoint.
There is no rest in the dark realm.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5413
How can people call this a good game? This game was so bad it hurt. I obviously dont know HOW to do it better but going in with no detection/no anti air and 30 brood lords, loosing all your overlord and having way to many drones with 14k minerals? Never build more hatches?

Sorry this game was awful :/
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5414
On October 23 2011 09:29 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:28 TheHova wrote:
hahahhahahaha what are you even supposed to do against that ?

literally nothing you can do

might wanna spend some of that 12k minerals on lings and the ghosts dissapear

Cause they cloak and EMP infestors and snipe the overseers.

Perfectly controlled, there is absolutely nothing you can do against mass ghosts with higher tech units. You have to go back to ling baneling roach and just max on that - which doesn't work against planetarys with massive tank support.

MvP was the better player, but Ghosts are still fucking stupid in the extreme late game.
arcail
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom10 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5415
ignoring balance complaints...what a final.
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5416
well i know that nestea didnt make the best end game decisions but omg what can you do when terran camps with those ghosts :O ?
DeMusliM !!!
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5417
On October 23 2011 09:31 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 lorgoth wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:29 GenesisX wrote:
no overseers lol

U know how long live overseer against 20 ghousts? and `16 vikings?


Considering how much extra resources Nestea had he could have made 100 overseers as they don't take up food count.

Nestea was completely broke at the end of the game.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5418
On October 23 2011 09:29 Vitamins wrote:
Why would he make so many Broodlords when you know there's a shit ton of ghosts. Feel like NesTea wasn't even trying.


please fill us in on what he was supposed to make to counter MVPs unit composition....

because every pro Zerg in the world would love the advice
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5419
On October 23 2011 09:30 cursor wrote:
GG = Ghost Ghost

HA nice one
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
October 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#5420
pretty sick ending
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